[Apostle Francis M. Lyman]
Pres[ident] Jos[eph] F. Smith [counselor in the First Presidency] called bro[ther] [apostle] Moses Thatcher to task for some things he considered wrong in him. Pres[ident] Geo[rge] Q. Cannon and I were asked to listen. We did for two hours or more. Some of the charges made by Pres[ident] Smith against Moses, he seemed to clean up all right. In fact his explanations were generally plausible. There was finally some feeling shown by bro[ther] M[oses] when he declared that Pres[ident] Jos[eph] F. had been stuffed with lies about him for 14 years. Pres[ident] Smith told him that the day would come when he would regret the stand he had taken upon the question of church and state, which tends to prevent the Presidency from counseling the people in political matters. Moses said he never would. He was not afraid to stand by his position. We separated at 2 P.M. Bro[ther] Joseph sent a line by me to bro[ther] Moses on the train at 3:30 P.M. as we started for Logan demanding of him proof of his assertion that he had been stuffed with lies about him for 14 years. ...
[Source: Excerpts of Apostle Francis M. Lyman Diaries, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
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