[Apostle Rudger Clawson]
Spoke of the Manifesto and said the saints were enabled to receive it because of their experience. "Don't worry about the future. Do right today, and we will be sufficient for tomorrow." "Some people are worrying about an amendment to the Constitution. This should not be.
[Stan Larson (editor), A Ministry of Meetings: The Apostolic diaries of Rudger Clawson, Signature Books in association with Smith Research Associates, Salt Lake City, 1993, http://bit.ly/rudgerclawson]
125 years ago today - Nov 20, 1899
[Apostle Heber J. Grant]
I had a chat this morning with Judge Henderson regarding the position taken by some of the leading Democrats at a recent meeting at which they refused to sustain B.H. Roberts as the representative of our party in Congtess (sic). I also chatted with him regarding the issue of the moral on this same subject and told him so far as I was concerned that if the Democratic party had no use for men of my kind, namely those who had more than one wife I wanted to know as I was prepared in such an event to drive such a party from having control in the State or the city.
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
I had a chat this morning with Judge Henderson regarding the position taken by some of the leading Democrats at a recent meeting at which they refused to sustain B.H. Roberts as the representative of our party in Congtess (sic). I also chatted with him regarding the issue of the moral on this same subject and told him so far as I was concerned that if the Democratic party had no use for men of my kind, namely those who had more than one wife I wanted to know as I was prepared in such an event to drive such a party from having control in the State or the city.
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
135 years ago today - Nov 20, 1889 (Wednesday)
Charles W. Penrose, who had testified as a witness in the naturalization case before Judge Anderson in the Third District Court, was committed to the Penitentiary for refusing to answer an impertinent question with reference to his family affairs.
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
180 years ago today - Nov 20, 1844
Parley P. Pratt is secretly sealed to Belinda Marden by Brigham Young. On 1 January 1846, she gave birth to a son, Nephi. Though Belinda was living in the Pratt home, Parley's legal wife Mary Ann did not know of the sealing.
[Richard S. Van Wagoner, "Sarah M. Pratt: The Shaping of An Apostate," Dialogue, Vol.19, No.2, p.85]
[Richard S. Van Wagoner, "Sarah M. Pratt: The Shaping of An Apostate," Dialogue, Vol.19, No.2, p.85]
180 years ago today - November 20, 1844. Wednesday.
...P.M. went with President Young to see Sister Jane Hardman. President Young blessed her with the blessings of the everlasting covenant and she was sealed up to eternal life and to W[illiam] C[layton] for time and for all eternity.
[George D. Smith, An Intimate Chronicle; The Journals of William Clayton, Signature Books in association with Smith Research Associates, Salt Lake City, 1995, http://amzn.to/william-clayton]
[George D. Smith, An Intimate Chronicle; The Journals of William Clayton, Signature Books in association with Smith Research Associates, Salt Lake City, 1995, http://amzn.to/william-clayton]
15 years ago today - 11/19/2009
Los Angeles Times reports that hate crimes in 2008 were down 4% in general, but hate crimes against GLBT community members were up "prompted in part" by the Prop 8 debate.
[Mormons for Marriage: A Prop 8 Timeline, http://mormonsformarriage.com/?page_id=68]
[Mormons for Marriage: A Prop 8 Timeline, http://mormonsformarriage.com/?page_id=68]
40 years ago today - Nov 19, 1984
BYU's football team is ranked "the No. 1 college football team in America" by United Press International, and the next day by the Associated Press polls of the nation's sportswriters and broadcasters.
[The Mormon Hierarchy - Extensions of Power by D. Michael Quinn, [New Mormon History database ( http://bit.ly/NMHdatabase )]]
[The Mormon Hierarchy - Extensions of Power by D. Michael Quinn, [New Mormon History database ( http://bit.ly/NMHdatabase )]]
110 years ago today - Nov 19, 1914; Thursday
[First Presidency and Quorum of Twelve]
Pres[iden]t. [Joseph F.] Smith informed the Council that Pres[iden]t. Richard W. Young had suggested to the First Presidency the advisability of the Church making an effort to collect subscriptions in behalf of the Red Cross, the amounts thus subscribed to be used at the discretion of the Society. The suggestion was that it be announced generally that a portion of our regular monthly fast donations be set aside for the Red Cross, and that our people generally be invited to increase their donations, the idea being that the Church would get credit for the amounts thus raised instead of the individuals, and that therefore individual members who might be asked for donations might consistently answer that they were contributing through the Church in the way suggested.
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
Pres[iden]t. [Joseph F.] Smith informed the Council that Pres[iden]t. Richard W. Young had suggested to the First Presidency the advisability of the Church making an effort to collect subscriptions in behalf of the Red Cross, the amounts thus subscribed to be used at the discretion of the Society. The suggestion was that it be announced generally that a portion of our regular monthly fast donations be set aside for the Red Cross, and that our people generally be invited to increase their donations, the idea being that the Church would get credit for the amounts thus raised instead of the individuals, and that therefore individual members who might be asked for donations might consistently answer that they were contributing through the Church in the way suggested.
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
120 years ago today - Nov 19, 1904
[James Henry Martineau]
Blessed Bishop John Neff and his daughters Frances and Eugenia, the latter about to go on a mission. Sister Mary A. Hyde White also blessed the two girls in tongues. We had a delightful time.
[An Uncommon Common Pioneer: The Journals of James Henry Martineau 1828-1918, edited by Donald G. Godfrey XXX Rebecca S. Martineau-McCarty]
Blessed Bishop John Neff and his daughters Frances and Eugenia, the latter about to go on a mission. Sister Mary A. Hyde White also blessed the two girls in tongues. We had a delightful time.
[An Uncommon Common Pioneer: The Journals of James Henry Martineau 1828-1918, edited by Donald G. Godfrey XXX Rebecca S. Martineau-McCarty]
125 years ago today - Sunday, Nov 19, 1899
[Apostle John Henry Smith]
President L. Snow shook hands with 1,065 Sunday school children.
[Jean Bickmore White (editor), Church, State, and Politics: The Diaries of John Henry Smith, Signature Books in association with Smith Research Associates, Salt Lake City, 1990, http://bit.ly/johnhenrysmith]
President L. Snow shook hands with 1,065 Sunday school children.
[Jean Bickmore White (editor), Church, State, and Politics: The Diaries of John Henry Smith, Signature Books in association with Smith Research Associates, Salt Lake City, 1990, http://bit.ly/johnhenrysmith]
120 years ago today - Nov 17, 1904; Thursday
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
A letter was read from George Osmond and William W. Burton, to the effect that it was common report that Brother Anson V. Call, counselor in the Stake Presidency, had married a plural wife recently and they ask that some of the Apostles attend the conference and investigate the affair. Letter referred to Brother [Francis M.] Lyman. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
A letter was read from George Osmond and William W. Burton, to the effect that it was common report that Brother Anson V. Call, counselor in the Stake Presidency, had married a plural wife recently and they ask that some of the Apostles attend the conference and investigate the affair. Letter referred to Brother [Francis M.] Lyman. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
140 years ago today - Nov 17, 1884
[Apostle Wilford Woodruff]
Presidet Taylor directed that the sealing room for the dead [of the Manti temple] should be over the Baptismal font.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
Presidet Taylor directed that the sealing room for the dead [of the Manti temple] should be over the Baptismal font.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
180 years ago today - Nov 17, 1844
Birth of David Hyrum Smith, son of Joseph and Emma.
[Proctor, Scott and Maurine Jensen, editors, History of Joseph Smith by His Mother: Revised and Enhanced]
[Proctor, Scott and Maurine Jensen, editors, History of Joseph Smith by His Mother: Revised and Enhanced]
180 years ago today - Nov 17, 1844
Late 1844-early 1845 Lucy begins dictating her memoirs to Martha Jane Knowlton Coray.
[Anderson, Lavina Fielding, Editor, Lucy's Book: A Critical Edition of Lucy Mack Smith's Family Memoir, 2001, Signature Books, http://bit.ly/lucys-book]
[Anderson, Lavina Fielding, Editor, Lucy's Book: A Critical Edition of Lucy Mack Smith's Family Memoir, 2001, Signature Books, http://bit.ly/lucys-book]
180 years ago today - Nov 17, 1844
Emma gives birth to David Hyrum Smith at Nauvoo, her ninth biological child and eighth son. late 1844-early 1845 Lucy begins dictating her memoirs to Martha Jane Knowlton Coray.
[Anderson, Lavina Fielding, Editor, Lucy's Book: A Critical Edition of Lucy Mack Smith's Family Memoir, 2001, Signature Books, http://bit.ly/lucys-book]
[Anderson, Lavina Fielding, Editor, Lucy's Book: A Critical Edition of Lucy Mack Smith's Family Memoir, 2001, Signature Books, http://bit.ly/lucys-book]
185 years ago today - Nov 17, 1839
[Brigham Young]
.... in the evening I anointed Brother Taylor in the House of the Lord the Prose was as follows after Brother Taylor had washed in pure water and castel soap then we all went to House of the Lord H. C. K. [Heber C. Kimball] opened the meeting by prayer I then anointed J. Taylor with pure sweet oil and pronounced such blessings as the spirit gave witness J. T. then rose and praid for himself Brother Turley was anointed by D. [Daniel] S. Miles than it was seled [sealed] by Hozanna then their feet was washed the meeting closed.
[Brigham Young Journal (1801-1877) Journal #2 July, 1837- Mar. 1845]
.... in the evening I anointed Brother Taylor in the House of the Lord the Prose was as follows after Brother Taylor had washed in pure water and castel soap then we all went to House of the Lord H. C. K. [Heber C. Kimball] opened the meeting by prayer I then anointed J. Taylor with pure sweet oil and pronounced such blessings as the spirit gave witness J. T. then rose and praid for himself Brother Turley was anointed by D. [Daniel] S. Miles than it was seled [sealed] by Hozanna then their feet was washed the meeting closed.
[Brigham Young Journal (1801-1877) Journal #2 July, 1837- Mar. 1845]
120 years ago today - Nov 17, 1904; Thursday
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
A letter was read from George Osmond and William W. Burton, to the effect that it was common report that Brother Anson V. Call, counselor in the Stake Presidency, had married a plural wife recently and they ask that some of the Apostles attend the conference and investigate the affair. Letter referred to Brother [Francis M.] Lyman. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
A letter was read from George Osmond and William W. Burton, to the effect that it was common report that Brother Anson V. Call, counselor in the Stake Presidency, had married a plural wife recently and they ask that some of the Apostles attend the conference and investigate the affair. Letter referred to Brother [Francis M.] Lyman. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
135 years ago today - Nov 17, 1889
[Apostle Brigham Young Jr.]
[Evening] Attended meeting at Gardo house Presidency several of the Twelve and Church lawyers present. Agreed to push our views before the Court and establish our innocence of all [?] grievous charges brought against us. Men are revealing what they learned at the Endowment house 40 years ago and lying before God and man to accomplish the destruction of this people. The pot is boiling with a vengeance and I am glad. The wicked must have opportunity as well as the saints.
[Diary of Apostle Brigham Young Jr., http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
[Evening] Attended meeting at Gardo house Presidency several of the Twelve and Church lawyers present. Agreed to push our views before the Court and establish our innocence of all [?] grievous charges brought against us. Men are revealing what they learned at the Endowment house 40 years ago and lying before God and man to accomplish the destruction of this people. The pot is boiling with a vengeance and I am glad. The wicked must have opportunity as well as the saints.
[Diary of Apostle Brigham Young Jr., http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
140 years ago today - Nov 17, 1884
[Apostle Wilford Woodruff]
Presidet Taylor directed that the sealing room for the dead [of the Manti temple] should be over the Baptismal font.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
Presidet Taylor directed that the sealing room for the dead [of the Manti temple] should be over the Baptismal font.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
180 years ago today - Nov 17, 1844
Birth of David Hyrum Smith, son of Joseph and Emma.
[Proctor, Scott and Maurine Jensen, editors, History of Joseph Smith by His Mother: Revised and Enhanced]
[Proctor, Scott and Maurine Jensen, editors, History of Joseph Smith by His Mother: Revised and Enhanced]
180 years ago today - Nov 17, 1844
Late 1844-early 1845 Lucy begins dictating her memoirs to Martha Jane Knowlton Coray.
[Anderson, Lavina Fielding, Editor, Lucy's Book: A Critical Edition of Lucy Mack Smith's Family Memoir, 2001, Signature Books, http://bit.ly/lucys-book]
[Anderson, Lavina Fielding, Editor, Lucy's Book: A Critical Edition of Lucy Mack Smith's Family Memoir, 2001, Signature Books, http://bit.ly/lucys-book]
180 years ago today - Nov 17, 1844
Emma gives birth to David Hyrum Smith at Nauvoo, her ninth biological child and eighth son. late 1844-early 1845 Lucy begins dictating her memoirs to Martha Jane Knowlton Coray.
[Anderson, Lavina Fielding, Editor, Lucy's Book: A Critical Edition of Lucy Mack Smith's Family Memoir, 2001, Signature Books, http://bit.ly/lucys-book]
[Anderson, Lavina Fielding, Editor, Lucy's Book: A Critical Edition of Lucy Mack Smith's Family Memoir, 2001, Signature Books, http://bit.ly/lucys-book]
185 years ago today - Nov 17, 1839
[Brigham Young]
.... in the evening I anointed Brother Taylor in the House of the Lord the Prose was as follows after Brother Taylor had washed in pure water and castel soap then we all went to House of the Lord H. C. K. [Heber C. Kimball] opened the meeting by prayer I then anointed J. Taylor with pure sweet oil and pronounced such blessings as the spirit gave witness J. T. then rose and praid for himself Brother Turley was anointed by D. [Daniel] S. Miles than it was seled [sealed] by Hozanna then their feet was washed the meeting closed.
[Brigham Young Journal (1801-1877) Journal #2 July, 1837- Mar. 1845]
.... in the evening I anointed Brother Taylor in the House of the Lord the Prose was as follows after Brother Taylor had washed in pure water and castel soap then we all went to House of the Lord H. C. K. [Heber C. Kimball] opened the meeting by prayer I then anointed J. Taylor with pure sweet oil and pronounced such blessings as the spirit gave witness J. T. then rose and praid for himself Brother Turley was anointed by D. [Daniel] S. Miles than it was seled [sealed] by Hozanna then their feet was washed the meeting closed.
[Brigham Young Journal (1801-1877) Journal #2 July, 1837- Mar. 1845]
65 years ago today - Nov 16, 1959
A Time magazine article about the expulsion of Harry Howard as the president of the Jewish fraternity B'nai Brith in Pasadena, California because he is a Mormon convert. He appeals unsuccessfully to national leadership to reinstate him because he maintains his Jewish identity as a Mormon.
[The Mormon Hierarchy - Extensions of Power by D. Michael Quinn, [New Mormon History database ( http://bit.ly/NMHdatabase )]]
[The Mormon Hierarchy - Extensions of Power by D. Michael Quinn, [New Mormon History database ( http://bit.ly/NMHdatabase )]]
115 years ago today - Nov 16, 1909 (Tuesday)
Prof. John Phillip Sousa, the world's most famous band master, arrived in Salt Lake City with his great band. He gave a concert in the evening.
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
125 years ago today - Nov 16, 1899; Thursday
President Snow explained to President Cannon the mind of the Council in relation to resuming the prayer circle, and President Cannon replied that he was very glad to learn of it.
The order of procedure, as to the prayer circle and the business of the Council, was next considered, and a decision reached that it would be better to have the prayer circle first.
...The brethren present now clothed and assembled for prayer using the room of the Apostles, where they have always met to do the business of the Council, in lieu of the First Presidency's room, where the prayer circle was formerly held, but which is not now in readiness.
The hymn "Lord, we come before thee now", was sung; Elder Brigham Young offered the opening prayer, and Elder John W. Taylor was mouth in the circle. After the members of the Council had disrobed, and resumed their ordinary attire, the following business was transacted. ...
Brother Grant now brought to the consideration of the Council the constant efforts that were being made by the Gentiles of Salt Lake City, to draw business southward... [discussion of counter-measuers by moving Z.C.M.I further south]...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
The order of procedure, as to the prayer circle and the business of the Council, was next considered, and a decision reached that it would be better to have the prayer circle first.
...The brethren present now clothed and assembled for prayer using the room of the Apostles, where they have always met to do the business of the Council, in lieu of the First Presidency's room, where the prayer circle was formerly held, but which is not now in readiness.
The hymn "Lord, we come before thee now", was sung; Elder Brigham Young offered the opening prayer, and Elder John W. Taylor was mouth in the circle. After the members of the Council had disrobed, and resumed their ordinary attire, the following business was transacted. ...
Brother Grant now brought to the consideration of the Council the constant efforts that were being made by the Gentiles of Salt Lake City, to draw business southward... [discussion of counter-measuers by moving Z.C.M.I further south]...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
130 years ago today - Fri., Nov 16, 1894
[Apostle Abraham H. Cannon]
He [one of the First Presidency] told of the spirit which led away from the Church in early days six of the Twelve Apostles. He said that the Prophet Joseph frequently did peculiar things in order to try those who were about him. One Sunday two Methodist preachers came to visit him in his house. He talked with them for some time, and then took a coal from the ash pan and marked on the floor. He then jumped, and said to one of the brethren present that he could not jump as far. This very much offended his sanctimonious visitors, when he opened out on them and said he merely did it to try them, as he perceived they were visiting him merely to find some sin in him.
When Pres. Woodruff first met him and his brother Hyrum they were coming in from target shooting with pistols, which they held in their hands. Bro. Joseph remarked that he was intending to go up to Missouri, and thought he would have to do some shooting, and wanted first to see if he could hit anything.
[Abraham H. Cannon Journal Excerpts, http://www.amazon.com/Apostles-Record-Journals-Abraham-1889-1896/dp/B000MFD1K4]
He [one of the First Presidency] told of the spirit which led away from the Church in early days six of the Twelve Apostles. He said that the Prophet Joseph frequently did peculiar things in order to try those who were about him. One Sunday two Methodist preachers came to visit him in his house. He talked with them for some time, and then took a coal from the ash pan and marked on the floor. He then jumped, and said to one of the brethren present that he could not jump as far. This very much offended his sanctimonious visitors, when he opened out on them and said he merely did it to try them, as he perceived they were visiting him merely to find some sin in him.
When Pres. Woodruff first met him and his brother Hyrum they were coming in from target shooting with pistols, which they held in their hands. Bro. Joseph remarked that he was intending to go up to Missouri, and thought he would have to do some shooting, and wanted first to see if he could hit anything.
[Abraham H. Cannon Journal Excerpts, http://www.amazon.com/Apostles-Record-Journals-Abraham-1889-1896/dp/B000MFD1K4]
160 years ago today - Nov 16, 1864
[Apostle Wilford Woodruff]
16 Wednesday We Started Early in the morning to return home. Soon After we left Kays word a snow Storm accompanied by a strong Canyon wind Struck us and it was almost impossible for us to travel. It Came near blowing over our Carriages. I was in the lightest Carriage of the Company & it was with the greatest difficulty we Could keep it right side up. It blew 4 small windows out. We finally reached Farmington. President Young stoped with Bishop Hess. J. Taylor G A Smith & myself went to Ezra Clarks & spent the night in the worst gale I Ever Experienced on land in my life. It damaged Ezra Clark some $700 in Blowing off Roofs & blowing away Hay &c. It blew down some Houses & tooke the Roof off from Many. It took the roof off from Bountiful Meeting House. 22.
[Note, Andrew Jenson (a church historian) classified this as a hurricane]
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
16 Wednesday We Started Early in the morning to return home. Soon After we left Kays word a snow Storm accompanied by a strong Canyon wind Struck us and it was almost impossible for us to travel. It Came near blowing over our Carriages. I was in the lightest Carriage of the Company & it was with the greatest difficulty we Could keep it right side up. It blew 4 small windows out. We finally reached Farmington. President Young stoped with Bishop Hess. J. Taylor G A Smith & myself went to Ezra Clarks & spent the night in the worst gale I Ever Experienced on land in my life. It damaged Ezra Clark some $700 in Blowing off Roofs & blowing away Hay &c. It blew down some Houses & tooke the Roof off from Many. It took the roof off from Bountiful Meeting House. 22.
[Note, Andrew Jenson (a church historian) classified this as a hurricane]
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
35 years ago today - Nov 15, 1989
Announced at a priesthood satellite broadcast that all tithing monies collected from local congregations would be sent directly to Church headquarters, and all expenditures of local units would be paid by annual budget allowances from Church tithing funds, ending the established practice of having members pay many local costs. All local budgets were to be funded entirely by tithing, beginning January 1, 1990. Any unit having funds on deposit or in saving accounts were to transfer these funds to the general find of the Church.
[Correlation Timeline, Compiled by Lisle Brown]
[Correlation Timeline, Compiled by Lisle Brown]
45 years ago today - Nov 15, 1979-Thursday
[Leonard Arrington]
We saw an advertisement in Bookcraft's Christmas brochure for Truman Madsen's biography of B. H. Roberts. I went to Carol [Cornwall] Madsen to express delight. Gordon Madsen happened to be with her. He said it may not come out after all. He said that Truman had decided to clear it with the General Authorities before publishing, so he took a copy of the manuscript to Elder [Gordon B.] Hinckley. Brother Hinckley said he would refuse to read it. He just didn't have time and didn't want to be responsible. So he said it should be cleared through President [Spencer W.] Kimball's office. He then gave the copy to President Kimball, who appointed Mark Petersen to read it. I told Gordon it'll never come out. [[Publication was delayed slightly, but the book appeared early in 1980 after Mark E. Petersen deferred to G. Homer Durham's judgment.]]
[Confessions of a Mormon historian : the diaries of Leonard J. Arrington, 1971-1997, Gary James Bergera, editor, Signature Books, 2018]
We saw an advertisement in Bookcraft's Christmas brochure for Truman Madsen's biography of B. H. Roberts. I went to Carol [Cornwall] Madsen to express delight. Gordon Madsen happened to be with her. He said it may not come out after all. He said that Truman had decided to clear it with the General Authorities before publishing, so he took a copy of the manuscript to Elder [Gordon B.] Hinckley. Brother Hinckley said he would refuse to read it. He just didn't have time and didn't want to be responsible. So he said it should be cleared through President [Spencer W.] Kimball's office. He then gave the copy to President Kimball, who appointed Mark Petersen to read it. I told Gordon it'll never come out. [[Publication was delayed slightly, but the book appeared early in 1980 after Mark E. Petersen deferred to G. Homer Durham's judgment.]]
[Confessions of a Mormon historian : the diaries of Leonard J. Arrington, 1971-1997, Gary James Bergera, editor, Signature Books, 2018]
110 years ago today - Nov 15, 1914
[James E. Talmage]
I was entertained at noon at the home of President Joseph B. Keeler where I met a number of the stake and general officers of the Relief Society; and in the early evening took dinner at the home of Brother Jesse Knight. For the first time I heard from Brother Knight's own lips the account of the answer to his prayers by which he was placed on the road to abundant prosperity; and his statement is in flat contradiction to the many unauthorized rumors of his having received supernatural visitations by which he was directed to hidden ore bodies. His testimony is given in a spirit of humility and a sincerity; and he is very emphatic in saying that he has never received any such 'manifestation' as the promoters of the 'Dream Mine' in Utah county, and the Holton 'Dream Mine' in Boxelder county, profess to have had. ...
[James E. Talmage Diary, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
I was entertained at noon at the home of President Joseph B. Keeler where I met a number of the stake and general officers of the Relief Society; and in the early evening took dinner at the home of Brother Jesse Knight. For the first time I heard from Brother Knight's own lips the account of the answer to his prayers by which he was placed on the road to abundant prosperity; and his statement is in flat contradiction to the many unauthorized rumors of his having received supernatural visitations by which he was directed to hidden ore bodies. His testimony is given in a spirit of humility and a sincerity; and he is very emphatic in saying that he has never received any such 'manifestation' as the promoters of the 'Dream Mine' in Utah county, and the Holton 'Dream Mine' in Boxelder county, profess to have had. ...
[James E. Talmage Diary, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
130 years ago today - Nov 15, 1894
[Apostle Heber J. Grant]
[In Deseret] We chatted over the trouble between brother Weston and the Bishop [Moody] and pointed out to the bishop the fact that he had done wrong in challenging the vote of brother Weston. He admitted his error, but not in the spirt that I feel he should have done. I am impressed that it would be a good thing if there were a change in the Bishop at Deseret. I think the change would be a good thing for the saints of the Ward.
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
[In Deseret] We chatted over the trouble between brother Weston and the Bishop [Moody] and pointed out to the bishop the fact that he had done wrong in challenging the vote of brother Weston. He admitted his error, but not in the spirt that I feel he should have done. I am impressed that it would be a good thing if there were a change in the Bishop at Deseret. I think the change would be a good thing for the saints of the Ward.
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
140 years ago today - Nov 15, 1884
[Apostle Wilford Woodruff]
15 Saturday We Commenced our Quarterly Conference. Prayer By Moses Thatcher. Statistics Read as follows: 4 Patriarchs, 444 Seventies, 296 high Priests, 929 Elders 192 Priests, 232 Teachers, 292 Deacons 5,962 Members 8,351 Officers & Members, 3,436 Children under 8 years 11,787 Total of Souls, and 2,645 Sunday school Children. 14 Names were Presented to be ordained High Priests. President Taylor then made some remarks upon the Subject of the Class of men to be ordained High Priests. Quite a Portion of them should be smart inteligent faithful young Men to use for Presidets Bishops & their C[ouncillors?] to Presi[dents?]. Bishops were then Called upon to report their wards verbally. Quite a number reported. Afternoon. W Woodruff Prayed F M Lyman spok 44 m M Thatcher 40 M.
I met with the young People in the Evening. M Thatcher spoke 40 M Br Gill 23, G Q Cannon 17 M, & W Woodruff 25 M. We had a vary Good Meeting.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
15 Saturday We Commenced our Quarterly Conference. Prayer By Moses Thatcher. Statistics Read as follows: 4 Patriarchs, 444 Seventies, 296 high Priests, 929 Elders 192 Priests, 232 Teachers, 292 Deacons 5,962 Members 8,351 Officers & Members, 3,436 Children under 8 years 11,787 Total of Souls, and 2,645 Sunday school Children. 14 Names were Presented to be ordained High Priests. President Taylor then made some remarks upon the Subject of the Class of men to be ordained High Priests. Quite a Portion of them should be smart inteligent faithful young Men to use for Presidets Bishops & their C[ouncillors?] to Presi[dents?]. Bishops were then Called upon to report their wards verbally. Quite a number reported. Afternoon. W Woodruff Prayed F M Lyman spok 44 m M Thatcher 40 M.
I met with the young People in the Evening. M Thatcher spoke 40 M Br Gill 23, G Q Cannon 17 M, & W Woodruff 25 M. We had a vary Good Meeting.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
160 years ago today - Nov 15, 1864
George A. Smith accuses Warren Parrish, from the pulpit of the Ogden Tabernacle, of taking $100,000 out of the vault, buying up everything, and putting the money back before Joseph was aware. Given that $100,000 KSS would only be worth $1,250 of goods at the time (or $2,650 at the best of times), Warren could have done it. This claim is dubious, and odds that someone else would have noticed and mentioned it are high.
[Kirtland Timeline - Kirtland Safety Society, the Bank of Monroe, Temple Dedication, Consecration, and significant historical events related, http://www.exploringmormonism.com/kirtland-timeline-kirtland-safety-society-the-bank-of-monroe-temple-dedication-consecration-and-significant-historical-events-related/]
[Kirtland Timeline - Kirtland Safety Society, the Bank of Monroe, Temple Dedication, Consecration, and significant historical events related, http://www.exploringmormonism.com/kirtland-timeline-kirtland-safety-society-the-bank-of-monroe-temple-dedication-consecration-and-significant-historical-events-related/]
160 years ago today - Nov 15, 1864
A year later, Apostle Smith seemed to be describing the vision in a more traditional way:"When the Lord appeared to Joseph Smith…He [Joseph] thus describes the incident: 'In the spring of 1820…I saw a pillar of light…I saw two personages…This is my beloved son, hear him.'"("Journal of Discourses", Vol. 11, pp.1-2)
[A Documented History of Joseph Smith's First Vision, http://beggarsbread.org/2013/04/01/a-documented-history-of-joseph-smiths-first-vision/]
[A Documented History of Joseph Smith's First Vision, http://beggarsbread.org/2013/04/01/a-documented-history-of-joseph-smiths-first-vision/]
185 years ago today - Nov 15, 1839
The first issue of the Times and Seasons is published at Nauvoo.
[Conkling, Christopher J., Joseph Smith Chronology]
[Conkling, Christopher J., Joseph Smith Chronology]
25 years ago today - Nov 14, 1999
Gorden B. Hinckley dedicated the Halifax Nova Scotia Temple the same day the Regina Saskatchewan Temple was dedicated by President Boyd K. Packer, the first time in Church history two temples were dedicated on the same day
[LDS Newsroom, Time line of Significant Events as President, http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/news-releases-stories/time-line-of-significant-events-as-president]
[LDS Newsroom, Time line of Significant Events as President, http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/news-releases-stories/time-line-of-significant-events-as-president]
130 years ago today - Nov 14, 1894
[Apostle Marriner W. Merrill]
Met with the Apostles in our room in the Temple at 10:30 a. m. Discussed the propriety of educating our Elders before sending them on missions, as suggested by John W. Young, who has lived in London the last 3 years. The suggestion was repudiated; it was decided to select the best Elders we could and let them depend on the Lord as formerly. We also had suggestions from Professor Ben Cluff of the B. Y. at Provo offering to educate the Priesthood and make them proficient to preside over Wards, Stakes, and the Saints in general; this was also repudiated.
[Notes from the Miscellaneous Record Book, 1886-1906: Selected diary notes from the journal books of Marriner Wood Merrill, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
Met with the Apostles in our room in the Temple at 10:30 a. m. Discussed the propriety of educating our Elders before sending them on missions, as suggested by John W. Young, who has lived in London the last 3 years. The suggestion was repudiated; it was decided to select the best Elders we could and let them depend on the Lord as formerly. We also had suggestions from Professor Ben Cluff of the B. Y. at Provo offering to educate the Priesthood and make them proficient to preside over Wards, Stakes, and the Saints in general; this was also repudiated.
[Notes from the Miscellaneous Record Book, 1886-1906: Selected diary notes from the journal books of Marriner Wood Merrill, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
135 years ago today - Thursday, Nov 14th 1889
[John Nuttle]
.... Prest. L. Snow was of the opinion that Bros. Merrill & Lund and Thatcher could go onto the Stand and testify that there were no such oaths, obligations or covenants required in the Endowments, but if they should be asked what did transpire there they could refuse to answer. Bro. John Henry Smith, asked if there would be any objections to his referring to what is written in the Revelations of St. John in regard to prayer &c. by way of rebuttal. Bro. Snow answered No! that it would be proper for him to do so and that Bros Merrill & Lund could corroberate (sic) that; but that none of the brethren should give any of the Endowments or instructions but refuse to answer questions to that end. ...
[Diary Excerpts of L. John Nuttall, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
.... Prest. L. Snow was of the opinion that Bros. Merrill & Lund and Thatcher could go onto the Stand and testify that there were no such oaths, obligations or covenants required in the Endowments, but if they should be asked what did transpire there they could refuse to answer. Bro. John Henry Smith, asked if there would be any objections to his referring to what is written in the Revelations of St. John in regard to prayer &c. by way of rebuttal. Bro. Snow answered No! that it would be proper for him to do so and that Bros Merrill & Lund could corroberate (sic) that; but that none of the brethren should give any of the Endowments or instructions but refuse to answer questions to that end. ...
[Diary Excerpts of L. John Nuttall, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
135 years ago today - Nov 14, 1889
Testimony of John Henry Smith:
Q. I will ask you, Mr. Smith, if, in the course of the administration of the ceremonies there in the Endowment House, there is any covenant or oath or affirmation made by, or required of, those, passing through there, that they will avenge the blood of the prophets on this nation or its people, or against the government of the United States? Has there ever been since you first went through there?
A. I absolutely declare that there was no such oath, or such covenant, no such bond entered into by me, nor did I ever administer such an oath, covenant or bond to any man, that could be construed, by any reasonable construction of language, any way upon the earth, to mean a thing of that kind; and will say here for myself, that had any man presented to me an oath that bound me to become a deliberate enemy of my country that I love and respect, I would have repudiated it upon the spot.
. . .
Q. Weren't the people instructed to pray the Lord to avenge the blood of the prophets, and to teach that to their children and their children's children?
A. I have no remembrance of any such instructions of that positive kind.
Q. Well, that they were instructed to pray to the Lord to avenge the blood of the prophets, wasn't that it?
A. I decline to answer any further questions with regard to that.
Testimony of Heber John Richards:
Q. You say there was no covenant to avenge the blood of the prophets upon this nation?
A. None that I heard, sir.
Q. What was said about avenging the blood of the prophets?
A. In the fore part of the ceremony [in the Endowment House], in the annointing, they annointed my right arm that it might be strong to avenge the blood of the prophets, but that was all that was said.
Q. What was said about avenging the blood of the prophets, Joseph and Hyrum?
A. Nothing whatever about Joseph and Hyrum, that I recollect—It was just "prophets."
[The Inside of Mormonism, A Judicial Examination of Endowment Oaths Administered in All the Mormon Temples, by the United States District Court for the Third Judicial District of Utah, to Determine Whether Membership in the Mormon Church is Consistent with Citizenship in the United States, https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=6FhqT9uHS-cC pp. 48-49, as quoted in Sources on the Oath of Vengeance or Law of Retribution, Christopher C. Smith, privately circulated]
Q. I will ask you, Mr. Smith, if, in the course of the administration of the ceremonies there in the Endowment House, there is any covenant or oath or affirmation made by, or required of, those, passing through there, that they will avenge the blood of the prophets on this nation or its people, or against the government of the United States? Has there ever been since you first went through there?
A. I absolutely declare that there was no such oath, or such covenant, no such bond entered into by me, nor did I ever administer such an oath, covenant or bond to any man, that could be construed, by any reasonable construction of language, any way upon the earth, to mean a thing of that kind; and will say here for myself, that had any man presented to me an oath that bound me to become a deliberate enemy of my country that I love and respect, I would have repudiated it upon the spot.
. . .
Q. Weren't the people instructed to pray the Lord to avenge the blood of the prophets, and to teach that to their children and their children's children?
A. I have no remembrance of any such instructions of that positive kind.
Q. Well, that they were instructed to pray to the Lord to avenge the blood of the prophets, wasn't that it?
A. I decline to answer any further questions with regard to that.
Testimony of Heber John Richards:
Q. You say there was no covenant to avenge the blood of the prophets upon this nation?
A. None that I heard, sir.
Q. What was said about avenging the blood of the prophets?
A. In the fore part of the ceremony [in the Endowment House], in the annointing, they annointed my right arm that it might be strong to avenge the blood of the prophets, but that was all that was said.
Q. What was said about avenging the blood of the prophets, Joseph and Hyrum?
A. Nothing whatever about Joseph and Hyrum, that I recollect—It was just "prophets."
[The Inside of Mormonism, A Judicial Examination of Endowment Oaths Administered in All the Mormon Temples, by the United States District Court for the Third Judicial District of Utah, to Determine Whether Membership in the Mormon Church is Consistent with Citizenship in the United States, https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=6FhqT9uHS-cC pp. 48-49, as quoted in Sources on the Oath of Vengeance or Law of Retribution, Christopher C. Smith, privately circulated]
135 years ago today - Nov 14, 1889 (Thursday)
In the Third District Court, Salt Lake City, the extraordinary proceedings, in which John Moore and other "Mormons" were refused citizenship, on the pretence that they had subscribed to a certain secret and disloyal oath in the Endowment House, was commenced before Judge Thos. J. Anderson. Proceedings were continued day by day until the 25th.
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
135 years ago today - Nov 14, 1889
[First Presidency Office Journal]
[At a meeting concerning testimony regarding the nature of the oaths of the endowment:] The question of testifying to any of the Endowments or instructions was considered, by some it was 519 thought that the instructions given about praying to the Lord to avenge the blood of the Prophets and referring to the 6th Chapter of revelations 9 & 10th verses as what is prayed for and taught so as to refute the testimony which has been given. would be proper. others thought that it should not be mentioned as fully as it is given &c.
[First Presidency Office Journal, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
[At a meeting concerning testimony regarding the nature of the oaths of the endowment:] The question of testifying to any of the Endowments or instructions was considered, by some it was 519 thought that the instructions given about praying to the Lord to avenge the blood of the Prophets and referring to the 6th Chapter of revelations 9 & 10th verses as what is prayed for and taught so as to refute the testimony which has been given. would be proper. others thought that it should not be mentioned as fully as it is given &c.
[First Presidency Office Journal, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
135 years ago today - Thursday, Nov 14, 1889
[Apostle John Henry Smith]
At 10 a.m. I went to Court, Judge Anderson presiding.
A number of Witnesses was put on the stand to show that the Saints were murderous and disloyal and that in the [temple] endowments men obligated themselves to murder. Apostates ... were sworn and gave testimony filled with lies. The day was consumed by new witnesses.
[Jean Bickmore White (editor), Church, State, and Politics: The Diaries of John Henry Smith, Signature Books in association with Smith Research Associates, Salt Lake City, 1990, http://bit.ly/johnhenrysmith]
At 10 a.m. I went to Court, Judge Anderson presiding.
A number of Witnesses was put on the stand to show that the Saints were murderous and disloyal and that in the [temple] endowments men obligated themselves to murder. Apostates ... were sworn and gave testimony filled with lies. The day was consumed by new witnesses.
[Jean Bickmore White (editor), Church, State, and Politics: The Diaries of John Henry Smith, Signature Books in association with Smith Research Associates, Salt Lake City, 1990, http://bit.ly/johnhenrysmith]
135 years ago today - Nov 14, 1889
[Apostle Heber J. Grant]
There are some lively times in the Court and we hardly know what way to turn. I feel that it is better for us to suffer rather than to allow any of the endowments to be revealed. It is too bad that we should be placed in such a position as we are in today. There is no worse lie on earth than the one that there is something in the Endowments to make a man a traitor to this Nation or that there are any oaths to avenge the blood of the Prophet Joseph and Hyrum Smith on this Nation. ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
There are some lively times in the Court and we hardly know what way to turn. I feel that it is better for us to suffer rather than to allow any of the endowments to be revealed. It is too bad that we should be placed in such a position as we are in today. There is no worse lie on earth than the one that there is something in the Endowments to make a man a traitor to this Nation or that there are any oaths to avenge the blood of the Prophet Joseph and Hyrum Smith on this Nation. ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
155 years ago today - Nov 14, 1869
Brigham Young, in the Salt Lake Tabernacle addressed mothers specifically: "Why do you not live so as to rebuke disease? It is your privilege to do so without sending for the Elders ...It is the privilege of a mother to have faith and to administer to her child; this she can do herself, as well as sending for the Elders to have the benefit of their faith."
[Journal of Discourses, 13: 155, as quoted at http://ordainwomen.org/quotes. See Quinn, "Mormon Political Conflicts" for full cite and context.]
[Journal of Discourses, 13: 155, as quoted at http://ordainwomen.org/quotes. See Quinn, "Mormon Political Conflicts" for full cite and context.]
165 years ago today - Nov 14, 1859
Peter Maughan is "Presiding Bishop in Cache Valley." He is among the first, if not the first, of nineteenth-century stake bishops who function in most stakes outside the Salt Lake Stake. This office does not continue in the twentieth century.
[The Mormon Hierarchy - Extensions of Power by D. Michael Quinn, [New Mormon History database ( http://bit.ly/NMHdatabase )]]
[The Mormon Hierarchy - Extensions of Power by D. Michael Quinn, [New Mormon History database ( http://bit.ly/NMHdatabase )]]
175 years ago today - Nov 14, 1849
[Apostle Wilford Woodruff]
During the evening in company with Brother Cannon I Attended one of Le Roy Sunderland Lectures upon Patheism. He had some 10 persons in a state of Clarvoyance And About a dozen asleep And many affected in the first degree. He classes his Mesmerism under 3 degrees 1 2 3 But it is evident in a great measure that his operation are a money making scheme. Those in the third degree are trained subjects And I could free-quently see the Cloven foot manifest.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
During the evening in company with Brother Cannon I Attended one of Le Roy Sunderland Lectures upon Patheism. He had some 10 persons in a state of Clarvoyance And About a dozen asleep And many affected in the first degree. He classes his Mesmerism under 3 degrees 1 2 3 But it is evident in a great measure that his operation are a money making scheme. Those in the third degree are trained subjects And I could free-quently see the Cloven foot manifest.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
180 years ago today - Nov 14, 1844
[Apostle Wilford Woodruff. <> indicate shorthand, used by Woodruff to obscure entries]
(Nov 14th Thursday + When the destroyer reigns darkness prevails.) [discussion of sickness]
I dreamed of being in Nauvoo. Br Kimball <going to> England. Br Webster, <denied the faith>, my sister Eunice <[left?] in the hands of Elder Young>.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
(Nov 14th Thursday + When the destroyer reigns darkness prevails.) [discussion of sickness]
I dreamed of being in Nauvoo. Br Kimball <going to> England. Br Webster, <denied the faith>, my sister Eunice <[left?] in the hands of Elder Young>.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
110 years ago today - Nov 13, 1914
[James E. Talmage]
Talmage has dinner with Jesse Knight, whom Talmage says denied that he received his wealth by supernatural means, contrary to the beliefs of the promoters of the "Dream Mine."
[Chronology of the Life and Work of James E. Talmage, J. Trevor Antley, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MJsHY83JZL_n6CjWq11y1trT_CVXMMXAx2uYOWAwn0c/edit#heading=h.2zfdaoa]
Talmage has dinner with Jesse Knight, whom Talmage says denied that he received his wealth by supernatural means, contrary to the beliefs of the promoters of the "Dream Mine."
[Chronology of the Life and Work of James E. Talmage, J. Trevor Antley, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MJsHY83JZL_n6CjWq11y1trT_CVXMMXAx2uYOWAwn0c/edit#heading=h.2zfdaoa]
130 years ago today - Nov 13, 1894
The genealogical society of the Church, known as the Genealogical Society of Utah, was organized.
[Church News: Historical Chronology of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, http://www.ldschurchnewsarchive.com/articles/58765/Historical-chronology-of-The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints.html]
[Church News: Historical Chronology of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, http://www.ldschurchnewsarchive.com/articles/58765/Historical-chronology-of-The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints.html]
135 years ago today - Nov 13, 1889
[First Presidency Office Journal]
.... then Bro[ther] A. D. Thatcher, John Clark, W[illiam] W Riter, E[dwin] G Woolley, Frank Jennings & J H Anderson were asked some questions in point as to oaths & all of whom answered very well & pointedly. Bro[ther] Riter had formed an impression in regard to avenging the blood of the prophets & church when he got his endowments which had continued with him so that he was not clear as to other brethren.
[First Presidency Office Journal, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
.... then Bro[ther] A. D. Thatcher, John Clark, W[illiam] W Riter, E[dwin] G Woolley, Frank Jennings & J H Anderson were asked some questions in point as to oaths & all of whom answered very well & pointedly. Bro[ther] Riter had formed an impression in regard to avenging the blood of the prophets & church when he got his endowments which had continued with him so that he was not clear as to other brethren.
[First Presidency Office Journal, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
135 years ago today - Nov 13, 1889
[Apostle Heber J. Grant]
At seven thirty attended a meeting at the Gardo. The question of how far we would be justified in revealing the secrets of the Endowments to head off the attempts that are being made to show that there are oaths taken in the Endowments that are contrary to those that a good citizen should take was fully and freely talked over, and the general feeling was to say nothing about the endowments in Court and to suffer the consequences no matter what they would be.
[The First Presidency Office Journal entry for this day noted during a court hearing: " ... then Bro[ther] A. D. Thatcher, John Clark, W[illiam] W Riter, E[dwin] G Woolley, Frank Jennings & J H Anderson were asked some questions in point as to oaths & all of whom answered very well & pointedly. Bro[ther] Riter had formed an impression in regard to avenging the blood of the prophets & church when he got his endowments which had continued with him so that he was not clear as to other brethren.]
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
At seven thirty attended a meeting at the Gardo. The question of how far we would be justified in revealing the secrets of the Endowments to head off the attempts that are being made to show that there are oaths taken in the Endowments that are contrary to those that a good citizen should take was fully and freely talked over, and the general feeling was to say nothing about the endowments in Court and to suffer the consequences no matter what they would be.
[The First Presidency Office Journal entry for this day noted during a court hearing: " ... then Bro[ther] A. D. Thatcher, John Clark, W[illiam] W Riter, E[dwin] G Woolley, Frank Jennings & J H Anderson were asked some questions in point as to oaths & all of whom answered very well & pointedly. Bro[ther] Riter had formed an impression in regard to avenging the blood of the prophets & church when he got his endowments which had continued with him so that he was not clear as to other brethren.]
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
140 years ago today - Nov 13, 1884 (Thursday)
Eighty Latter-day Saint emigrants from the Southern States mission, and nine returning Elders, left Chattanooga, Tenn., bound for Colorado and Utah.
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
75 years ago today - Nov 12, 1949
[Former apostle Richard R. Lyman, Letter to Stephen L Richards (regarding his excommunication for adultry)]
Deep down in my heart I feel as if I had no trial. I think I was in the presence of the Brethren fewer than ten minutes. Brother Joseph Fielding [Smith] said 'We desire to give this serious matter as little publicity as possible' then came that terrible publicity the very next day that was read all over the world. My Michigan classmates (and I had been made president for life of the class of '95) heard it everywhere. My engineering friends, some of them the greatest engineers in the world, began discussing it.
Does it not appear to you to have been a strange way to treat a friend after being in session with him all day under such conditions that at the slightest whisper he could have been held and he would gladly and quickly have explained his conduct. I say does it not seem to have been most unkind to have sent after him, not an automobile full but a bus as large as a streetcar full of armed officers who split and [s]mashed down the door as if they were endeavoring to capture the worse kind of wicked armed and fighting criminal. The Chief of Police, Reed Vetterli, told me immediately afterward that if he had known that I was the one involved he would not have permitted the officers to do it to say nothing of his leading it himself as he did. He was only told that they were after a 'Big Shot.'
More than six years have not passed since this tragic affair happened. Many have forgotten it and I am treated by my school and engineering friends as if nothing had ever happened and many Church people, apparently thinking I was harshly treated, pay me more attention than they ever did before. I went to Midvale [Utah] today to the home of a friend who has lost his wife and the people flocked around like a long lost brother and one woman insisted on my going to her home to see her father and mother. I feel as if I cannot go to any chapel except in my own ward. I never miss my sacrament meeting but of course regret having to refuse to partake of the sacrament.
Now as to my offense. For reasons that seemed to me to justify it I agreed to regard that woman as my wife and she agreed to regard me as her husband. While no written note was made of this agreement at the time the date I feel sure was Nov[ember]. 9, 1925. This relationship had gone on for 18 years in a most quiet way before the publicity of more than six years ago. It seems to me therefore, now that I am nearly 80 years old, and since the Lord knows my heart and all the facts concerning my case, it may be wisest and best, as I stated above, and after these six long years, to wait and let the Lord over there give me what I deserve. ...
If anything could possibly be done, without publicity to induce the Brethren to extend to me the hand of welcome and friendship in the Church Office Building and in our various places of worship that would be the richest blessing I could ask. But having had another wife since Nov. 9, 1925, although not living with her, this is a something that I presume is impossible.
Please regard this letter as personal and confidential. Perhaps after reading it you may think it desirable for us to meet again and discuss some of these things further. Some one has said: 'If a man has not done anything for which he ought to be ashamed or sorry he is not a very bad man.' I hope this is the case with me. Can I ever be forgiven for saying that?
[Richard R. Lyman, Letter to Stephen L Richards, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
Deep down in my heart I feel as if I had no trial. I think I was in the presence of the Brethren fewer than ten minutes. Brother Joseph Fielding [Smith] said 'We desire to give this serious matter as little publicity as possible' then came that terrible publicity the very next day that was read all over the world. My Michigan classmates (and I had been made president for life of the class of '95) heard it everywhere. My engineering friends, some of them the greatest engineers in the world, began discussing it.
Does it not appear to you to have been a strange way to treat a friend after being in session with him all day under such conditions that at the slightest whisper he could have been held and he would gladly and quickly have explained his conduct. I say does it not seem to have been most unkind to have sent after him, not an automobile full but a bus as large as a streetcar full of armed officers who split and [s]mashed down the door as if they were endeavoring to capture the worse kind of wicked armed and fighting criminal. The Chief of Police, Reed Vetterli, told me immediately afterward that if he had known that I was the one involved he would not have permitted the officers to do it to say nothing of his leading it himself as he did. He was only told that they were after a 'Big Shot.'
More than six years have not passed since this tragic affair happened. Many have forgotten it and I am treated by my school and engineering friends as if nothing had ever happened and many Church people, apparently thinking I was harshly treated, pay me more attention than they ever did before. I went to Midvale [Utah] today to the home of a friend who has lost his wife and the people flocked around like a long lost brother and one woman insisted on my going to her home to see her father and mother. I feel as if I cannot go to any chapel except in my own ward. I never miss my sacrament meeting but of course regret having to refuse to partake of the sacrament.
Now as to my offense. For reasons that seemed to me to justify it I agreed to regard that woman as my wife and she agreed to regard me as her husband. While no written note was made of this agreement at the time the date I feel sure was Nov[ember]. 9, 1925. This relationship had gone on for 18 years in a most quiet way before the publicity of more than six years ago. It seems to me therefore, now that I am nearly 80 years old, and since the Lord knows my heart and all the facts concerning my case, it may be wisest and best, as I stated above, and after these six long years, to wait and let the Lord over there give me what I deserve. ...
If anything could possibly be done, without publicity to induce the Brethren to extend to me the hand of welcome and friendship in the Church Office Building and in our various places of worship that would be the richest blessing I could ask. But having had another wife since Nov. 9, 1925, although not living with her, this is a something that I presume is impossible.
Please regard this letter as personal and confidential. Perhaps after reading it you may think it desirable for us to meet again and discuss some of these things further. Some one has said: 'If a man has not done anything for which he ought to be ashamed or sorry he is not a very bad man.' I hope this is the case with me. Can I ever be forgiven for saying that?
[Richard R. Lyman, Letter to Stephen L Richards, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
135 years ago today - Nov 12, 1889
[Apostle Heber J. Grant]
This afternoon at 4 I attended a meeting at the Gardo House. The meeting was called to see what the best action to take would be to head off the efforts that were being made to prevent the members of the church from becoming citizens.
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
This afternoon at 4 I attended a meeting at the Gardo House. The meeting was called to see what the best action to take would be to head off the efforts that were being made to prevent the members of the church from becoming citizens.
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
140 years ago today - Nov 12, 1884
[Lorenzo Saunders Interview regarding Joseph Smith]
.... I know it was before Jo. claimed to have taken the plates from the hill Cummorah. And there was some two or three of us traveled that ground over, & we could not find a hole. There was a great raft of them digging for money. E.L.K.
Who was at the head? Mr. S.
Jo. Smith with his peep Stone. I never saw Jo. Smith digging[.] ...
Mr. S.
(Excited) I tell you, sir, I am one of them that saw digging there & I will Swear to it. I am one of them that went & tore the door down to the cave. My Father was in possession & he ordered us to break that door down & put the hole up.--
Benjamin Tabor owned the land at that time. The cave was situated on the East side of the hill. ... I never Saw young Jo. Smith there by the cave. I will tell you I take the evidence from what the old man said respecting that; The old man said: what: Jo. could see in his peep stone what there was in that cave. & the old man said that Joseph could see. [p. 8] E.L.K.
Was it not an account of the stories of there being treasure hidden there by old Spanish Buchaneers? Mr. S.
Well I will tell you they did dig; Willard Chase & Alvin, the one that died. Willard Chase told me about a place; He said he & alvin Smith went there to dig & there was a chest there; and he said it was so large, & so wide (measuring with a cane) It was an iron chest. And he said they dug down & it only lay a little under the ground. I says how did this shovel become broken up like that? Willard Chase then told me; He says Alvin & I went down & found that chest. Willard Chase claimed his sister Sally had a peep stone. The Lord bless you I have seen her peep stone a hundred times; It was a little bit of a stone & it was green & she would hold it before light. After I left there, it was thirty years ago:--after I left there I can not tell you whether the peep stone was used or not[.] When men will come to me & tell me that men can pick stones out of this Earth [sentence incomplete]. as I told Jo. Smith when he dug one out of a well on Chases Farm in the Shape of a baby's
foot. They dug that hole for money. Chase's & Smiths altogether was digging it[.] [p. 9] I knew all about the stone; Edmund Chase told me all about it, He lives here now, this side of Kalamazoo. He is a man older than I am[.] his name is Edmund Chase[.] I tell you when a man will come <<tell>> me that any one can get a stone, & see knowledge of futurity, I say that he is a liar & the truth is not in him. Steve Mungou lost his pocket book in the road with some $50. in money in it. He went right to Sally Chase to get her to look & see where it was; She went & looked. He was drawing wood out of the woods. She said that pocket book lays right at the side of a log in the woods where you loaded that wood. It lays right at the side of the log well we went & hunted & raked the ground over where she said but could not find it. It past along & finally one night got a paper from Canadagua [Canandaigua, New York], & in it was that a pocket book was found & taken to an old Ontario Bank[.]
Took it there & the owner could come & describe his book. And he went & found his pocket book at the bank. I lost [a] drag tooth out of my drag, dragging on my brothers premises there; I says: Sally, tell me where is that drag tooth? She told me "it lays in a log heap." She says I think it lays a little past you will find it [p. 10]
I went & hunted & hunted but could not find it there. I afterwards found it away over in one corner of the field. Well I was going to tell you about Jo. We went to Smiths one day, it was a rainy day; We went into the old mans shop, he was a cooper, and the old man had a shirt on it was the raggedest & dirtyest shirt, and all full of holes. & we got Jo. Smith to look & tell us what color our Girls hair was. well you see by & by some of them says go to Jo. says he Jo. come look into futurity & tell us how it is there? Jo. says I can not do that, I can not look into futurity I can not look into anything that is holy. The old man stood there and says: "I guess he can not look into my shirt then["] E.L.K.
Do you remember whether Joseph Smith's wife was there when you saw Rigdon? M[r]. S.
I think she was. she used to be frequently at our house but I cant tell certainly for Jo. went down & married her in Penn. she used to be an awful fine pretty girl; she was an intelegent woman. My oldest sister & she used to be very intimate after Joseph was married. Right away after they was married she used to come to our house. My Father died in 1825. [p. 11]
Speaking of the Smith family I gave them credit for everything except Mormonism; They were good neighbors; They were kind neighbors in sickness; & Hiram Smith in particular when my father died he was at our house all the time. He <<& I>> had a brother died and he was as attentive then. They was always ready to bestow anything. The old man was always telling yarns, he would go to turkey shoots & get tight & he would pretend to put spells on their guns & would tell them they could not shoot a turkey. At the time the big hole was dug in the hill they was duped by one Walters who pretended to be a conjurer, I heard Willard Chase say that he was duped. They could not be deceived in it after he had gone through with a certain movements & [-] charged them $7. I seen the old man dig there day in and day out; He was close by. I used to go there & see them work. Joseph Smith never did work. They claim there in that book that Jo. Smith was a great worker. he was a lazy dog, I
tell you the truth. He never worked for my brother; because I was there all the time. & Jo. Smith never worked there, & Jo. Smith was a fellow that would not form any acquaintance with anybody [p. 12] much & if he did he would get have conflict. Them days people drank liquor everybody drank whiskey & the Smiths with the rest ... L.S.
... I do not think Joseph Smith ever got any plates or ever had any plates. He got a glass box. I saw where the box was that was all. They claimed it was in that box. Now, if the plates was the thickness of tin the box could not hold one quarter of them. ... it was when Jo. Smith claimed to get the plates. Jo. Smith told the story but he told so many stories, it was a hard thing to get the fact in any way or shape. Now I can tell you what he told to our house respecting this revelation that he had in the very commencement before Alvin died, his brother; Sometime before this he claimed that he saw the Angel & that he was notified of these plates & all that & the time would be made known to him but it was not at that time made known to him but he must take his oldest brother & go <<to>> the spot & he could obtain them. Before that time his oldest brother died. Jo. Smith got that revelation a year or two before that. I do not know as I can tell what year Alvin died in[.] It
was in the summer before Alvin died he told it at our house. perhaps Mrs. Smith has got the date of Alvins death in her record. After that Alvin died; Then Joseph said that he saw the angel again; The Angel told him he must go & get him a wife & then he could take his wife & go & get the plates. & he pretended he must get a black horse or a mule to go & get the plates[.] We went there & we examined the hill [p. 16] all over where he claimed to got the plates & we could not find a place that was broke & there was no plates on the ground where the hill was not broke. Robinson said he tried many times to find the hole where he took them out, that is on the west hill it was C cleared off E.L.K.
He claimed he threw it into a brush heap there is trees on the top of the hill & timber on the South side. ...
About the revelation that Joseph had that there was going to be a new Messiah brought into the world, I heard it intimated that Catherine was in a family way. I know nothing about it. I do not know anything about it, says I, this is a very delicate matter to meddle with female characters. E.L.K.
It is Catherine Saulbury now. L.S.
The time they lived there was 1830; She was quite a solid woman at that time. If you have read Tuckers book dont you know it is said that Martin Harris went through the streets claiming they had received a new [r]evelation there was coming out a new Jesus Christ Martin proclaimed one that would open the Eyes of the blind & cause the dum[b] to Speak. I never heard him say so. & on the way to Kirtland that child was born & it was a dead one & it was a she Jesus. It was implicated there at the time it Catherine & I told your brother so. says I it is intimated around that Sidney Rigdon was the origin of that [child][.] [p. 21] says I if you want to go into obscene matters I can tell somethings too. I went to Manchester at a Tavern. The old man Smith got tight there & Blue Brown. And they was always Contending to old Jo. that his Penis was 16 inches long. I told your brother that he climax was [once?][.] it was in a cold day & there their wives sat waiting outside for them &
old Jo. & al measuring his drink. And then they had a square, & they measured; so old Jo. believed it was longer[.] so they pushed so hard they pushed it right through the seat of his breeches. I never believed about this there matter that Tucker put in the book, they claimed about the Wm Stafford black s[h]eep.
[Lorenzo Saunders, Interviewed by E. L. Kelley, 12 November 1884, 1-22, E. L. Kelley Papers, "Miscellany," RLDS Church Library-Archives, Independence, Missouri., as cited in Dan Vogel, Early Mormon Documents: Lorenzo Saunders Interview]
.... I know it was before Jo. claimed to have taken the plates from the hill Cummorah. And there was some two or three of us traveled that ground over, & we could not find a hole. There was a great raft of them digging for money. E.L.K.
Who was at the head? Mr. S.
Jo. Smith with his peep Stone. I never saw Jo. Smith digging[.] ...
Mr. S.
(Excited) I tell you, sir, I am one of them that saw digging there & I will Swear to it. I am one of them that went & tore the door down to the cave. My Father was in possession & he ordered us to break that door down & put the hole up.--
Benjamin Tabor owned the land at that time. The cave was situated on the East side of the hill. ... I never Saw young Jo. Smith there by the cave. I will tell you I take the evidence from what the old man said respecting that; The old man said: what: Jo. could see in his peep stone what there was in that cave. & the old man said that Joseph could see. [p. 8] E.L.K.
Was it not an account of the stories of there being treasure hidden there by old Spanish Buchaneers? Mr. S.
Well I will tell you they did dig; Willard Chase & Alvin, the one that died. Willard Chase told me about a place; He said he & alvin Smith went there to dig & there was a chest there; and he said it was so large, & so wide (measuring with a cane) It was an iron chest. And he said they dug down & it only lay a little under the ground. I says how did this shovel become broken up like that? Willard Chase then told me; He says Alvin & I went down & found that chest. Willard Chase claimed his sister Sally had a peep stone. The Lord bless you I have seen her peep stone a hundred times; It was a little bit of a stone & it was green & she would hold it before light. After I left there, it was thirty years ago:--after I left there I can not tell you whether the peep stone was used or not[.] When men will come to me & tell me that men can pick stones out of this Earth [sentence incomplete]. as I told Jo. Smith when he dug one out of a well on Chases Farm in the Shape of a baby's
foot. They dug that hole for money. Chase's & Smiths altogether was digging it[.] [p. 9] I knew all about the stone; Edmund Chase told me all about it, He lives here now, this side of Kalamazoo. He is a man older than I am[.] his name is Edmund Chase[.] I tell you when a man will come <<tell>> me that any one can get a stone, & see knowledge of futurity, I say that he is a liar & the truth is not in him. Steve Mungou lost his pocket book in the road with some $50. in money in it. He went right to Sally Chase to get her to look & see where it was; She went & looked. He was drawing wood out of the woods. She said that pocket book lays right at the side of a log in the woods where you loaded that wood. It lays right at the side of the log well we went & hunted & raked the ground over where she said but could not find it. It past along & finally one night got a paper from Canadagua [Canandaigua, New York], & in it was that a pocket book was found & taken to an old Ontario Bank[.]
Took it there & the owner could come & describe his book. And he went & found his pocket book at the bank. I lost [a] drag tooth out of my drag, dragging on my brothers premises there; I says: Sally, tell me where is that drag tooth? She told me "it lays in a log heap." She says I think it lays a little past you will find it [p. 10]
I went & hunted & hunted but could not find it there. I afterwards found it away over in one corner of the field. Well I was going to tell you about Jo. We went to Smiths one day, it was a rainy day; We went into the old mans shop, he was a cooper, and the old man had a shirt on it was the raggedest & dirtyest shirt, and all full of holes. & we got Jo. Smith to look & tell us what color our Girls hair was. well you see by & by some of them says go to Jo. says he Jo. come look into futurity & tell us how it is there? Jo. says I can not do that, I can not look into futurity I can not look into anything that is holy. The old man stood there and says: "I guess he can not look into my shirt then["] E.L.K.
Do you remember whether Joseph Smith's wife was there when you saw Rigdon? M[r]. S.
I think she was. she used to be frequently at our house but I cant tell certainly for Jo. went down & married her in Penn. she used to be an awful fine pretty girl; she was an intelegent woman. My oldest sister & she used to be very intimate after Joseph was married. Right away after they was married she used to come to our house. My Father died in 1825. [p. 11]
Speaking of the Smith family I gave them credit for everything except Mormonism; They were good neighbors; They were kind neighbors in sickness; & Hiram Smith in particular when my father died he was at our house all the time. He <<& I>> had a brother died and he was as attentive then. They was always ready to bestow anything. The old man was always telling yarns, he would go to turkey shoots & get tight & he would pretend to put spells on their guns & would tell them they could not shoot a turkey. At the time the big hole was dug in the hill they was duped by one Walters who pretended to be a conjurer, I heard Willard Chase say that he was duped. They could not be deceived in it after he had gone through with a certain movements & [-] charged them $7. I seen the old man dig there day in and day out; He was close by. I used to go there & see them work. Joseph Smith never did work. They claim there in that book that Jo. Smith was a great worker. he was a lazy dog, I
tell you the truth. He never worked for my brother; because I was there all the time. & Jo. Smith never worked there, & Jo. Smith was a fellow that would not form any acquaintance with anybody [p. 12] much & if he did he would get have conflict. Them days people drank liquor everybody drank whiskey & the Smiths with the rest ... L.S.
... I do not think Joseph Smith ever got any plates or ever had any plates. He got a glass box. I saw where the box was that was all. They claimed it was in that box. Now, if the plates was the thickness of tin the box could not hold one quarter of them. ... it was when Jo. Smith claimed to get the plates. Jo. Smith told the story but he told so many stories, it was a hard thing to get the fact in any way or shape. Now I can tell you what he told to our house respecting this revelation that he had in the very commencement before Alvin died, his brother; Sometime before this he claimed that he saw the Angel & that he was notified of these plates & all that & the time would be made known to him but it was not at that time made known to him but he must take his oldest brother & go <<to>> the spot & he could obtain them. Before that time his oldest brother died. Jo. Smith got that revelation a year or two before that. I do not know as I can tell what year Alvin died in[.] It
was in the summer before Alvin died he told it at our house. perhaps Mrs. Smith has got the date of Alvins death in her record. After that Alvin died; Then Joseph said that he saw the angel again; The Angel told him he must go & get him a wife & then he could take his wife & go & get the plates. & he pretended he must get a black horse or a mule to go & get the plates[.] We went there & we examined the hill [p. 16] all over where he claimed to got the plates & we could not find a place that was broke & there was no plates on the ground where the hill was not broke. Robinson said he tried many times to find the hole where he took them out, that is on the west hill it was C cleared off E.L.K.
He claimed he threw it into a brush heap there is trees on the top of the hill & timber on the South side. ...
About the revelation that Joseph had that there was going to be a new Messiah brought into the world, I heard it intimated that Catherine was in a family way. I know nothing about it. I do not know anything about it, says I, this is a very delicate matter to meddle with female characters. E.L.K.
It is Catherine Saulbury now. L.S.
The time they lived there was 1830; She was quite a solid woman at that time. If you have read Tuckers book dont you know it is said that Martin Harris went through the streets claiming they had received a new [r]evelation there was coming out a new Jesus Christ Martin proclaimed one that would open the Eyes of the blind & cause the dum[b] to Speak. I never heard him say so. & on the way to Kirtland that child was born & it was a dead one & it was a she Jesus. It was implicated there at the time it Catherine & I told your brother so. says I it is intimated around that Sidney Rigdon was the origin of that [child][.] [p. 21] says I if you want to go into obscene matters I can tell somethings too. I went to Manchester at a Tavern. The old man Smith got tight there & Blue Brown. And they was always Contending to old Jo. that his Penis was 16 inches long. I told your brother that he climax was [once?][.] it was in a cold day & there their wives sat waiting outside for them &
old Jo. & al measuring his drink. And then they had a square, & they measured; so old Jo. believed it was longer[.] so they pushed so hard they pushed it right through the seat of his breeches. I never believed about this there matter that Tucker put in the book, they claimed about the Wm Stafford black s[h]eep.
[Lorenzo Saunders, Interviewed by E. L. Kelley, 12 November 1884, 1-22, E. L. Kelley Papers, "Miscellany," RLDS Church Library-Archives, Independence, Missouri., as cited in Dan Vogel, Early Mormon Documents: Lorenzo Saunders Interview]
150 years ago today - Nov 12, 1874 (Thursday)
Geo. Q. Cannon was arrested in Salt Lake City, on a charge of polygamy, and placed under $5,000 bonds.
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
105 years ago today - Nov 11,1919
Apostle James E. Talmage attends Third Christian Citizenship Conference in Pittsburgh as delegate chosen by Utah's governor. Utah delegates are booed and hissed by 4,000 other delegates. Talmage hurriedly leaves after some delegates surround him and threaten to strip off his clothes in order to display his temple garments.
[Quinn, D. Michael, The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power, Appendix 5, Selected Chronology of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1848-1996, http://amzn.to/extensions-power]
[Quinn, D. Michael, The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power, Appendix 5, Selected Chronology of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1848-1996, http://amzn.to/extensions-power]
170 years ago today - Nov 11, 1854 (Saturday)
Professor Orson Pratt discovered "a new and easy method of solution of the cubic and biquadratic equations."
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
15 years ago today - 11/10/2009
LDS Church comes out in favor of anti-discrimination ordinances in Salt Lake City, Utah.
[Mormons for Marriage: A Prop 8 Timeline, http://mormonsformarriage.com/?page_id=68]
[Mormons for Marriage: A Prop 8 Timeline, http://mormonsformarriage.com/?page_id=68]
130 years ago today - Nov 10, 1894
[Apostle Francis M. Lyman]
[Deseret] [Bishop Moody had been called to apologize for challenging Brother Western's vote at election because he was a polygamist living with his wives] [Conference] I taught them upon our status in relation to plural marriage. A man is not an adulterer because he lives with his plural wife. We must protect one another. Never betray a brother. All concluded to do right in the future ... Bro[ther] Grant spoke splendidly for an hour upon the Word of Wisdom and politics. There was much Republicanism in his Democracy.
[Excerpts of Apostle Francis M. Lyman Diaries, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
[Deseret] [Bishop Moody had been called to apologize for challenging Brother Western's vote at election because he was a polygamist living with his wives] [Conference] I taught them upon our status in relation to plural marriage. A man is not an adulterer because he lives with his plural wife. We must protect one another. Never betray a brother. All concluded to do right in the future ... Bro[ther] Grant spoke splendidly for an hour upon the Word of Wisdom and politics. There was much Republicanism in his Democracy.
[Excerpts of Apostle Francis M. Lyman Diaries, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
145 years ago today - Nov 10, 1879
I dreamed last night of seeing my Father. He was dressed in white robes. I was myself as were many others. I saw Thomas Bullock the [scribe?] and among other Persons I saw a Number of Gentiles who were our enemies in our midst and I thought they ought not to be with us. I have had a Number of Dreams Lately that seem to have some meaning to them.
I read the following in the Arizona Miner:
"Apostle Wilford Woodruff of the Latter Day Saints x x x recently unbosomed himself to the Mormon Church as follows:
"I will never dishonor my wives & children at the Demand of a Nation Steeped in Sin and ripe for the Damnation of Hell x x x. ..."
I glory in the Epistle & Testimony which I have bourn to all Nation and all the world from which that extract was made and God will hold up my testimony and the testimony of all the righteous. Though the heaven and Earth Pass away The Testimony of inspiration will not Pass away but will all be fulfilled as the Lord liveth.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
I read the following in the Arizona Miner:
"Apostle Wilford Woodruff of the Latter Day Saints x x x recently unbosomed himself to the Mormon Church as follows:
"I will never dishonor my wives & children at the Demand of a Nation Steeped in Sin and ripe for the Damnation of Hell x x x. ..."
I glory in the Epistle & Testimony which I have bourn to all Nation and all the world from which that extract was made and God will hold up my testimony and the testimony of all the righteous. Though the heaven and Earth Pass away The Testimony of inspiration will not Pass away but will all be fulfilled as the Lord liveth.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
190 years ago today - 1834 November [10-20]
First issue of the Messenger and Advocate is published in Kirtland, Oliver Cowdery, editor, F. G. Williams & Co., publisher. Includes Oliver's letter to W. W. Phelps from Norton, Ohio, September 7, 1834, recounting translation of the Book of Mormon, angelic restoration of "the holy [Aaronic] priesthood" in the name of the Messiah; and Oliver's letter from Pontiac dated October 20, but referring to the company's arrival at Pontiac, November 8.
[Kenney, Scott, Saints Without Halos, "Mormon History 1830-1844," http://web.archive.org/web/20120805163534/saintswithouthalos.com/dirs/d_c.phtml]
[Kenney, Scott, Saints Without Halos, "Mormon History 1830-1844," http://web.archive.org/web/20120805163534/saintswithouthalos.com/dirs/d_c.phtml]
195 years ago today - Nov 10, 1829
Masonry is referred to as a "secret combination" in the Palmyra Farmer
[Robert Hullinger - Joseph Smith's Response to Skepticism]
[Robert Hullinger - Joseph Smith's Response to Skepticism]
90 years ago today - Nov 9, 1934
[President Heber J. Grant]
I went over to the Deseret Book Company and asked Brother Hooper, the Manager, what he thought would be a fair price to pay for a copyright of Brother Ivins' book 'Mormonism and Free Masonry.' He thought a thousand dollars would be about right. I told him I thought we ought to pay $2500.00. He said that would be a very liberal price. I explained to Ashby Snow that I thought we ought to buy the copyright and pay $2500.00 for it, and he said he thought that would be a very nice thing for Brother Ivins' widow and hoped we would do it.
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
I went over to the Deseret Book Company and asked Brother Hooper, the Manager, what he thought would be a fair price to pay for a copyright of Brother Ivins' book 'Mormonism and Free Masonry.' He thought a thousand dollars would be about right. I told him I thought we ought to pay $2500.00. He said that would be a very liberal price. I explained to Ashby Snow that I thought we ought to buy the copyright and pay $2500.00 for it, and he said he thought that would be a very nice thing for Brother Ivins' widow and hoped we would do it.
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
95 years ago today - Nov 9, 1929
[First Presidency Letter to President of the South African Mission]
We note what you say regarding the difficulties with which you are confronted pertaining to the colored race. You no doubt are aware of the position taken by the Church to the effect that the descendants of Ham are not considered as being entitled to the holy priesthood. This inhibition comes from the Lord and applies to very person whose veins are but slightly tainted with the blood of Cain, as well as to the full blooded negro. This inhibition on the race of Cain must remain unchanged until the Lord himself orders it otherwise. People whose veins are but slightly tainted with the blood of Cain must be classed as negroes for the reason that while they may distribute the taint in their blood among the white races by intercourse with them, it never can be eliminated while the curse placed on Cain stands unsatisfied. Those who join the Church and are obedient to the commandments, will certainly receive a far greater reward than they could obtain in any other way, eve though they ma
not have the blessings of the priesthood conferred upon them ...
[First Presidency, Letter to Don Mack Dalton, President of the South African Mission, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
We note what you say regarding the difficulties with which you are confronted pertaining to the colored race. You no doubt are aware of the position taken by the Church to the effect that the descendants of Ham are not considered as being entitled to the holy priesthood. This inhibition comes from the Lord and applies to very person whose veins are but slightly tainted with the blood of Cain, as well as to the full blooded negro. This inhibition on the race of Cain must remain unchanged until the Lord himself orders it otherwise. People whose veins are but slightly tainted with the blood of Cain must be classed as negroes for the reason that while they may distribute the taint in their blood among the white races by intercourse with them, it never can be eliminated while the curse placed on Cain stands unsatisfied. Those who join the Church and are obedient to the commandments, will certainly receive a far greater reward than they could obtain in any other way, eve though they ma
not have the blessings of the priesthood conferred upon them ...
[First Presidency, Letter to Don Mack Dalton, President of the South African Mission, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
110 years ago today - Nov 9, 1914
[James E. Talmage]
Spent some time at the office of the First Presidency. During the afternoon attended a meeting of the First Presidency and certain invited members of the Deseret Sunday School Union Board. At this meeting I read aloud several chapters of the book, 'Jesus the Christ' now in process of preparation, the purpose being to ascertain whether the book would be properly suited for the lower or higher grades in the theological department. As was intended the work is being prepared for our people in general, and is not adapted for use as a text book for immature students. It was decided by the First Presidency that the work be completed of the same scope and plan as heretofore followed, and that the theological department of the Deseret Sunday School Union provide their own outline for the students of the first year's work in said department. In connection with the matter of the book it may be well to record here that since my beginning on the writing September 14th last, I have devoted every
spare hour to that labor and have at present in written form though not all in revised condition, twenty chapters. According to present indications the work on the book will be interrupted through other appointments already made. The purpose is, however, to bring it to completion at the earliest possible time though with some relief from the intense pressure under which the writing has been heretofore done.
[James E. Talmage Diary, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
Spent some time at the office of the First Presidency. During the afternoon attended a meeting of the First Presidency and certain invited members of the Deseret Sunday School Union Board. At this meeting I read aloud several chapters of the book, 'Jesus the Christ' now in process of preparation, the purpose being to ascertain whether the book would be properly suited for the lower or higher grades in the theological department. As was intended the work is being prepared for our people in general, and is not adapted for use as a text book for immature students. It was decided by the First Presidency that the work be completed of the same scope and plan as heretofore followed, and that the theological department of the Deseret Sunday School Union provide their own outline for the students of the first year's work in said department. In connection with the matter of the book it may be well to record here that since my beginning on the writing September 14th last, I have devoted every
spare hour to that labor and have at present in written form though not all in revised condition, twenty chapters. According to present indications the work on the book will be interrupted through other appointments already made. The purpose is, however, to bring it to completion at the earliest possible time though with some relief from the intense pressure under which the writing has been heretofore done.
[James E. Talmage Diary, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
125 years ago today - Nov 9, 1899
[Brigham Young Jr.]
This weather is too cold for me. I believe Pres[ident]. [Lorenzo] Snow ought to go to a warmer climate for the winter. His cold is a dangerous one I believe, but some warm atmosphere would bring him back to health.
[Brigham Young Jr. Diary, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
This weather is too cold for me. I believe Pres[ident]. [Lorenzo] Snow ought to go to a warmer climate for the winter. His cold is a dangerous one I believe, but some warm atmosphere would bring him back to health.
[Brigham Young Jr. Diary, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
140 years ago today - Nov 9, 1884
LDS political newspaper, the Salt Lake Herald reports that it was "a refreshing and pleasing sight to many" when Presiding Bishopric counselor John Q. Cannon assaulted a reporter for the anti-Mormon Salt Lake Tribune, then took out "a riding whip, and struck his victim a couple of times over the head. Then he knocked him down." A Mormon judge fines Cannon $15 for battering the reporter, described as "a diminutive individual, with a Hebraic cast of countenance."
[The Mormon Hierarchy - Extensions of Power by D. Michael Quinn, [New Mormon History database ( http://bit.ly/NMHdatabase )]]
[The Mormon Hierarchy - Extensions of Power by D. Michael Quinn, [New Mormon History database ( http://bit.ly/NMHdatabase )]]
135 years ago today - Nov 8, 1889
[Heber J. Grant]
This evening I went to Centerville on the train intending to spend the day there to morrow with [plural wife] Emily and the babies, but at the depot I was seen by Thos. Harris and I learned from Bro. Jno. Woolley that he is the worst person in Centerville to give our folks away to the Marshal and I therefore concluded that it would be better for me to change the location of the folks so I asked Bro Woolley to drive us to Woods Cross which he kindly did. I shall be glad when the day comes that I can repay some of the favors extended to me by my friends.
[The Diaries of Heber J. Grant, 1880-1945, Abridged, Digital Edition Salt Lake City, Utah, 2015]
This evening I went to Centerville on the train intending to spend the day there to morrow with [plural wife] Emily and the babies, but at the depot I was seen by Thos. Harris and I learned from Bro. Jno. Woolley that he is the worst person in Centerville to give our folks away to the Marshal and I therefore concluded that it would be better for me to change the location of the folks so I asked Bro Woolley to drive us to Woods Cross which he kindly did. I shall be glad when the day comes that I can repay some of the favors extended to me by my friends.
[The Diaries of Heber J. Grant, 1880-1945, Abridged, Digital Edition Salt Lake City, Utah, 2015]
180 years ago today - November 8, 1844. Friday.
[William Clayton]
....P.M. went to see Jane Hardman. She prefers me for a Saviour [husband] to anyone else, so she says.
[George D. Smith, An Intimate Chronicle; The Journals of William Clayton, Signature Books in association with Smith Research Associates, Salt Lake City, 1995, http://amzn.to/william-clayton]
....P.M. went to see Jane Hardman. She prefers me for a Saviour [husband] to anyone else, so she says.
[George D. Smith, An Intimate Chronicle; The Journals of William Clayton, Signature Books in association with Smith Research Associates, Salt Lake City, 1995, http://amzn.to/william-clayton]
185 years ago today - Nov 8, 1839
[Apostle Wilford Woodruff]
I saw Mrs Woodruff in deep affliction in a dream at Montrose. I did not see Sarah Emma.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
I saw Mrs Woodruff in deep affliction in a dream at Montrose. I did not see Sarah Emma.
[Wilford Woodruff's Journal: 1833-1898 Typescript, Volumes 1-9, Edited by Scott G. Kenney, Signature Books 1993, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
130 years ago today - Wednesday, Nov 7, 1894
[Apostle John Henry Smith]
Salt Lake City
The internal interests are saved. The flag again floats for the American people. F[rank] J. Cannon is elected to Congress. My precinct has gone Republican. I am elected a delegate to the Constitutional Convention.
[Jean Bickmore White (editor), Church, State, and Politics: The Diaries of John Henry Smith, Signature Books in association with Smith Research Associates, Salt Lake City, 1990, http://bit.ly/johnhenrysmith]
Salt Lake City
The internal interests are saved. The flag again floats for the American people. F[rank] J. Cannon is elected to Congress. My precinct has gone Republican. I am elected a delegate to the Constitutional Convention.
[Jean Bickmore White (editor), Church, State, and Politics: The Diaries of John Henry Smith, Signature Books in association with Smith Research Associates, Salt Lake City, 1990, http://bit.ly/johnhenrysmith]
140 years ago today - Nov 7, 1884
First anti-Salt Lake Tribune editorial appears in the Deseret News.
[Sherry Baker: Mormon Media History Timeline: 1827-2007, http://byustudies.byu.edu/showTitle.aspx?title=7984]
[Sherry Baker: Mormon Media History Timeline: 1827-2007, http://byustudies.byu.edu/showTitle.aspx?title=7984]
145 years ago today - Nov 07, 1879
The SS Arizona, a ship that carried more than 1,250 Latter-day Saints in nine crossings of the Atlantic, collides with a huge iceberg on its way from New York to Liverpool. Four Mormon missionaries are on board. The damage is extensive, but the ship makes it safely to a port in Newfoundland.
150 years ago today - Nov 7, 1874
[Mountain Meadows Massacre]
John Lee, a fugitive for fifteen years, is captured in a chicken coop near Panguitch, Utah. Soon thereafter, federal authorities arrest William Dame.
[Linder, Douglas, The Mountain Meadows Massacre Trials, http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/FTRIALS/mountainmeadows/leechrono.html]
John Lee, a fugitive for fifteen years, is captured in a chicken coop near Panguitch, Utah. Soon thereafter, federal authorities arrest William Dame.
[Linder, Douglas, The Mountain Meadows Massacre Trials, http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/FTRIALS/mountainmeadows/leechrono.html]
180 years ago today - Nov 7, 1844
Brigham Young (aged 43) marriage to Olive Grey Frost (1816-1845) (aged 28) plural widow of Joseph Smith, Jr. sealed to Joseph Smith, Jr. for eternity and Young for life
[Wikipedia, List of Brigham Young's Wives, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brigham_Young%27s_wives]
[Wikipedia, List of Brigham Young's Wives, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brigham_Young%27s_wives]
130 years ago today - Nov 6, 1894
[Apostle Francis M. Lyman]
We selected 17 brethren to form a prayer circle. When we talked with bro[ther] John C. Delaware he could not forgive Jos[eph] F. Smith for his political speech. If the Territory goes Republican that speech will be the cause of it said he. He seems about the crankiest man I have met.
[Excerpts of Apostle Francis M. Lyman Diaries, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
We selected 17 brethren to form a prayer circle. When we talked with bro[ther] John C. Delaware he could not forgive Jos[eph] F. Smith for his political speech. If the Territory goes Republican that speech will be the cause of it said he. He seems about the crankiest man I have met.
[Excerpts of Apostle Francis M. Lyman Diaries, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
30 years ago today - Nov 6,1994
Apostle M. Russell Ballard tells 25,000 students at BYU that general authorities "will not lead you astray. We cannot." This claim of infallibility is officially published, and he repeats it to another BYU devotional meeting in Mar 1996.
[Quinn, D. Michael, The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power, Appendix 5, Selected Chronology of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1848-1996, http://amzn.to/extensions-power]
[Quinn, D. Michael, The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power, Appendix 5, Selected Chronology of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1848-1996, http://amzn.to/extensions-power]
45 years ago today - Nov 06, 1979
John W. Welch files articles of incorporation for the Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies (FARMS), a nonprofit organization established to support and publish original research into the Book of Mormon and other Latter-day Saint scriptures. FARMS later becomes part of BYU (1999).
115 years ago today - Nov 6, 1909; Saturday
[Apostle Anthony Ivins]
Bro Richards asked the brethren [of the Stake] to express themselves as to their preference for a stake presidency by writing on a slip of paper the names of the present presidency or any oth- ers as they might prefer.
[Anderson, Elizabeth Oberdick, editor, Cowboy Apostle: The Diaries of Anthony W. Ivins: 1875-1932, Signature Books, Salt Lake City in association with the Smith-Pettit Foundation (2013) - http://bit.ly/AnthonyIvins]
Bro Richards asked the brethren [of the Stake] to express themselves as to their preference for a stake presidency by writing on a slip of paper the names of the present presidency or any oth- ers as they might prefer.
[Anderson, Elizabeth Oberdick, editor, Cowboy Apostle: The Diaries of Anthony W. Ivins: 1875-1932, Signature Books, Salt Lake City in association with the Smith-Pettit Foundation (2013) - http://bit.ly/AnthonyIvins]
160 years ago today - Nov 6, 1864
President Brigham Young; Delivered in the Bowery; November 6, 1864. After quoting D&C 107:53-55, President Young continues:
So, in like manner, every faithful son of God, becomes, as it were, Adam to the race that springs from his loins, when they are embraced in the covenants and blessings of the Holy Priesthood; and in the lapse of eternity, and in the progress of eternal lives, every true son of God becomes a king of kings, and a lord of lords, and it may also be said of him, as it was written of Jesus Christ, "Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end."
[Journal of Discourses. Liverpool, England, 1853-86. 10:353-357; Deseret News. Also Deseret Evening News, Deseret News Weekly, Deseret News Semi- Weekly, and Deseret News Extra, Salt Lake City as quoted in Quotations Dealing with the Relationship of Our First Earthy Parents to Our Heavenly Parents (1830-1978)]
So, in like manner, every faithful son of God, becomes, as it were, Adam to the race that springs from his loins, when they are embraced in the covenants and blessings of the Holy Priesthood; and in the lapse of eternity, and in the progress of eternal lives, every true son of God becomes a king of kings, and a lord of lords, and it may also be said of him, as it was written of Jesus Christ, "Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end."
[Journal of Discourses. Liverpool, England, 1853-86. 10:353-357; Deseret News. Also Deseret Evening News, Deseret News Weekly, Deseret News Semi- Weekly, and Deseret News Extra, Salt Lake City as quoted in Quotations Dealing with the Relationship of Our First Earthy Parents to Our Heavenly Parents (1830-1978)]
190 years ago today - Nov 5, 1834
Wilford Woodruff: Ordained priest 5 November 1834.
[Cook, Lyndon W., The Revelations of the Prophet Joseph Smith: A Historical and Biographical Commentary of the Doctrine and Covenants, Seventy's Mission Bookstore, Provo UT, 1985, http://amzn.to/RevelationsofJosephSmith]
[Cook, Lyndon W., The Revelations of the Prophet Joseph Smith: A Historical and Biographical Commentary of the Doctrine and Covenants, Seventy's Mission Bookstore, Provo UT, 1985, http://amzn.to/RevelationsofJosephSmith]
165 years ago today - Nov 5, 1859
In the evening Pres. Young came in and alluded to the character of most of the gentiles, saying they are dogs, some are hounds, some are bull terriers, and every other variety but still they are dogs. -- Salt Lake City
[Brigham Young Office Journals, Special Collections, Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan.; Archives, Church History Library, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah.; New Mormon Studies CD-ROM as quoted in The Complete Discourses of Brigham Young, Ed. Richard S. Van Wagoner, Smith-Pettit Foundation, Salt Lake City (2009), http://bit.ly/BY-discourses]
[Brigham Young Office Journals, Special Collections, Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan.; Archives, Church History Library, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah.; New Mormon Studies CD-ROM as quoted in The Complete Discourses of Brigham Young, Ed. Richard S. Van Wagoner, Smith-Pettit Foundation, Salt Lake City (2009), http://bit.ly/BY-discourses]
170 years ago today - Nov 5, 1854 (Afternoon)
[Brigham Young Sermon]
.... And if I was to come out and tell you in the name of Israel's God, if this people do not tithe themselves, and pay better attention to the law of tithing that the Lord God Almighty will smite the earth they occupy and smite them. And some will turn round and say I wish to scare them. I am utterly opposed to threatening any person with God Almighty, or hell fire. I always shun that path. Some of the brethren get up here; for instance when brother Hyde wants to accomplish anything on this earth, has to threaten them with God Almighty, and hell fire, if they do not do so, and so....
Now I tell you again, if I am not mistaken, if I un1erstand the mind and will of the Lord concerning this people, in the midst of these mountains, instead of your being afflicted, instead of our being afflicted with crickets, and with grasshoppers we will be afflicted with that that is a thousand times worse. ...
Stop I always do my swearing in the pulpit; if that man comes up and says I don't want to pay tithing on that, then what the devil have you with my time, I own you, I paid you a thousand dollars a year; he is my servant and slave just as much as those blacks are in the south. he is my slave and he has not a right to one minute of my time, only by my permission. I have a right to walk into his garden and take his increase. ...
[Leonard J. Arrington Papers, Special Collections, Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan.. (A reference reading LJA 12-55-5, 10, means LJA Series 12, Box 55, Folder 5, page 10.) 12-55-7, 14; Brigham Young Collection, Archives, Church History Library, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah as quoted from The Complete Discourses of Brigham Young, Ed. Richard S. Van Wagoner, Smith-Pettit Foundation, Salt Lake City (2009), http://bit.ly/BY-discourses]
.... And if I was to come out and tell you in the name of Israel's God, if this people do not tithe themselves, and pay better attention to the law of tithing that the Lord God Almighty will smite the earth they occupy and smite them. And some will turn round and say I wish to scare them. I am utterly opposed to threatening any person with God Almighty, or hell fire. I always shun that path. Some of the brethren get up here; for instance when brother Hyde wants to accomplish anything on this earth, has to threaten them with God Almighty, and hell fire, if they do not do so, and so....
Now I tell you again, if I am not mistaken, if I un1erstand the mind and will of the Lord concerning this people, in the midst of these mountains, instead of your being afflicted, instead of our being afflicted with crickets, and with grasshoppers we will be afflicted with that that is a thousand times worse. ...
Stop I always do my swearing in the pulpit; if that man comes up and says I don't want to pay tithing on that, then what the devil have you with my time, I own you, I paid you a thousand dollars a year; he is my servant and slave just as much as those blacks are in the south. he is my slave and he has not a right to one minute of my time, only by my permission. I have a right to walk into his garden and take his increase. ...
[Leonard J. Arrington Papers, Special Collections, Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan.. (A reference reading LJA 12-55-5, 10, means LJA Series 12, Box 55, Folder 5, page 10.) 12-55-7, 14; Brigham Young Collection, Archives, Church History Library, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah as quoted from The Complete Discourses of Brigham Young, Ed. Richard S. Van Wagoner, Smith-Pettit Foundation, Salt Lake City (2009), http://bit.ly/BY-discourses]
180 years ago today - Nov 5, 1844
[Heber C. Kimball marriage]
Wife #12, Ellen Sanders (Aagaat Ysteinsdatter Bakka), 1823-1871; 5 children, including Rosalia Kimball (Williams Gordon Edwards) and Jedediah Heber.
[His diary for that day is charactistic of others who enter into plural marriage, with no explicit reference to the marriage: "5 To [on] the 5 I took steam boat fore Quincy in company with my wife, Elder Babbit and wife. Crost over to Mont Rose [Montrose, Iowa], and went bord of St. Croix."]
[Hatch, Charles M. and Compton, Todd M. editors, 'A Widow's Tale: 1884-1896 Diary of Helen Mar Kimball Whitney' p. 37]
Wife #12, Ellen Sanders (Aagaat Ysteinsdatter Bakka), 1823-1871; 5 children, including Rosalia Kimball (Williams Gordon Edwards) and Jedediah Heber.
[His diary for that day is charactistic of others who enter into plural marriage, with no explicit reference to the marriage: "5 To [on] the 5 I took steam boat fore Quincy in company with my wife, Elder Babbit and wife. Crost over to Mont Rose [Montrose, Iowa], and went bord of St. Croix."]
[Hatch, Charles M. and Compton, Todd M. editors, 'A Widow's Tale: 1884-1896 Diary of Helen Mar Kimball Whitney' p. 37]
90 years ago today - Nov 4, 1934
[Heber J. Grant]
I confess I cannot make up my mind to appoint the young son of Hyrum G. Smith to become our Presiding Patriarch. I think there is a great deal of comment among the people as to why we cannot decide on a man to fill this position. I have read again what the brethren of the Twelve say in their report on the matter, but my spirit is not free regarding Hyrum G. Smith's son. I really feel in my heart that he is not the right man. I am sure if he were that the Lord would give me the impression in his favor. The impression to me every time that I think of it is that he hardly fills the bill'in fact does not anywhere near do so'and when I ask myself the question, 'Shall I recommend him; we might just as well call him now as wait for the next conference,' the impression to me is, no.
The impression to choose Willard Smith, my son-in-law, so far as his great ability is concerned, his humility, his knowledge, his force of character, is yes, every time I think of it. But on the other hand I am perfectly willing to keep him where he is, because he is working for a great bank. ... and the fact that he is my son-in-law might handicap him if he were called to be the Presiding Patriarch.
Then I go to President Smith's family, and his grandson [i.e., Joseph F. Smith], the son of Hyrum M., is an outstanding young man, a splendid man, very much like his father, the same forceful character as his grandfather, inclined to be a little harsh in his talk sometimes ...
I do feel almost impressed that when you come home next time we must come to a decision about the Presiding Patriarch, the three of us, and tell the quorum of the Twelve what to do. If we finally decide, after prayer and fasting, to appoint Hyrum G. Smith's boy, it will be all well and good, but if not, and we do not decide on someone else instead, in that case I am going to wait until another conference.
[Heber J. Grant, Letter to J. Reuben Clark, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
I confess I cannot make up my mind to appoint the young son of Hyrum G. Smith to become our Presiding Patriarch. I think there is a great deal of comment among the people as to why we cannot decide on a man to fill this position. I have read again what the brethren of the Twelve say in their report on the matter, but my spirit is not free regarding Hyrum G. Smith's son. I really feel in my heart that he is not the right man. I am sure if he were that the Lord would give me the impression in his favor. The impression to me every time that I think of it is that he hardly fills the bill'in fact does not anywhere near do so'and when I ask myself the question, 'Shall I recommend him; we might just as well call him now as wait for the next conference,' the impression to me is, no.
The impression to choose Willard Smith, my son-in-law, so far as his great ability is concerned, his humility, his knowledge, his force of character, is yes, every time I think of it. But on the other hand I am perfectly willing to keep him where he is, because he is working for a great bank. ... and the fact that he is my son-in-law might handicap him if he were called to be the Presiding Patriarch.
Then I go to President Smith's family, and his grandson [i.e., Joseph F. Smith], the son of Hyrum M., is an outstanding young man, a splendid man, very much like his father, the same forceful character as his grandfather, inclined to be a little harsh in his talk sometimes ...
I do feel almost impressed that when you come home next time we must come to a decision about the Presiding Patriarch, the three of us, and tell the quorum of the Twelve what to do. If we finally decide, after prayer and fasting, to appoint Hyrum G. Smith's boy, it will be all well and good, but if not, and we do not decide on someone else instead, in that case I am going to wait until another conference.
[Heber J. Grant, Letter to J. Reuben Clark, as quoted in Minutes of the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1910-1951, Privately Published, Salt Lake City, Utah 2010]
120 years ago today - Nov 4, 1904; Friday
Referring to yours of the 1st inst., recommending Sister Harriet B. Rowberry for second
anointing, we would say that a woman cannot receive those blessings except in connection with her husband; and a man so indifferent to the ordinances of the House of the Lord as to neglect doing his own temple work in his lifetime, although, as you say, he might have done so had he been so inclined, can scarcely be considered worthy of second anointing and we do not see how you can consistently recommend him to receive those blessings.
For these reasons we have withheld your endorsement from the recommend sent by you in favor of Sister Rowberry.
[Joseph F. Smith, John R. Winder, and Anthon H. Lund to Thomas R. Bassett, LDS Archives]
anointing, we would say that a woman cannot receive those blessings except in connection with her husband; and a man so indifferent to the ordinances of the House of the Lord as to neglect doing his own temple work in his lifetime, although, as you say, he might have done so had he been so inclined, can scarcely be considered worthy of second anointing and we do not see how you can consistently recommend him to receive those blessings.
For these reasons we have withheld your endorsement from the recommend sent by you in favor of Sister Rowberry.
[Joseph F. Smith, John R. Winder, and Anthon H. Lund to Thomas R. Bassett, LDS Archives]
125 years ago today - Nov 4, 1899
[Apostle Heber J. Grant]
I confessed to [a friend] that I felt that I had been neglectful of my duty as an apostle in the past and had devoted too much time to business affairs. I had deceived myself into feeling that I was doing my full duty because I attended as many if not more meetings in the different wards and stakes of Zion than any of the other members of my Quorum, except Francis M. Lyman. I explained that when I was chosen to be an apostle seventeen years ago to fill the vacancy caused by the death of Orson Pratt that I had not been impressed with the great labors which Brother Pratt had accomplished. He had died leaving his family destitute.
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
I confessed to [a friend] that I felt that I had been neglectful of my duty as an apostle in the past and had devoted too much time to business affairs. I had deceived myself into feeling that I was doing my full duty because I attended as many if not more meetings in the different wards and stakes of Zion than any of the other members of my Quorum, except Francis M. Lyman. I explained that when I was chosen to be an apostle seventeen years ago to fill the vacancy caused by the death of Orson Pratt that I had not been impressed with the great labors which Brother Pratt had accomplished. He had died leaving his family destitute.
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
165 years ago today - Nov 4, 1859 (Council Meeting)
[Brigham Young Sermon]
.... The spirit world will be just as natural to us when we are there as this world is to us. If you grieve the spirit of a man it operates upon the body, and thus sickness and emaciation is produced. ... Our religion makes the whole world our enemies, but the time has come as the Savior observed, '"Let him who hath no sword sell his coat and buy one.'" and if we had not been able to help ourselves we should have been over-run with the enemies of this work. I told the mob that I was not as good a man as Joseph Smith and I would send to hell cross lots anyone that would attempt my life. I expect to see the time that the nations will have to come to me to get succor, for they will be in trouble. I had a dream I saw a mob, and I told them my bones ached to use them up, and that I would not have a thread of them. -- Salt Lake City
[Brigham Young Office Journals, Special Collections, Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan.; Archives, Church History Library, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah.; New Mormon Studies CD-ROM -- quoted in The Complete Discourses of Brigham Young, Ed. Richard S. Van Wagoner, Smith-Pettit Foundation, Salt Lake City (2009), http://bit.ly/BY-discourses]
.... The spirit world will be just as natural to us when we are there as this world is to us. If you grieve the spirit of a man it operates upon the body, and thus sickness and emaciation is produced. ... Our religion makes the whole world our enemies, but the time has come as the Savior observed, '"Let him who hath no sword sell his coat and buy one.'" and if we had not been able to help ourselves we should have been over-run with the enemies of this work. I told the mob that I was not as good a man as Joseph Smith and I would send to hell cross lots anyone that would attempt my life. I expect to see the time that the nations will have to come to me to get succor, for they will be in trouble. I had a dream I saw a mob, and I told them my bones ached to use them up, and that I would not have a thread of them. -- Salt Lake City
[Brigham Young Office Journals, Special Collections, Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan.; Archives, Church History Library, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah.; New Mormon Studies CD-ROM -- quoted in The Complete Discourses of Brigham Young, Ed. Richard S. Van Wagoner, Smith-Pettit Foundation, Salt Lake City (2009), http://bit.ly/BY-discourses]
180 years ago today - Nov 4, 1844
[Hosea Stout (four months after presidential candidate Joseph Smith's murder)]
Nov 4 M. Today was the Presidential election and the brethren all concluded to vote for Polk and Dallas for President and Vice President of the United States however, it was with peculiar feelings that I went to the polls. I thought of the man whom we had elected as the man of our choice for president of the United States: our Beloved Prophet Joseph Smith whose voice seemed yet to sound in the air, teaching this nation the way they might be saved and the means to pursue to avoid a disunion and overthrow of our Government. ...
[Diaries of Hosea Stout]
Nov 4 M. Today was the Presidential election and the brethren all concluded to vote for Polk and Dallas for President and Vice President of the United States however, it was with peculiar feelings that I went to the polls. I thought of the man whom we had elected as the man of our choice for president of the United States: our Beloved Prophet Joseph Smith whose voice seemed yet to sound in the air, teaching this nation the way they might be saved and the means to pursue to avoid a disunion and overthrow of our Government. ...
[Diaries of Hosea Stout]
180 years ago today - Nov 4, 1844
[Hosea Stout (four months after presidential candidate Joseph Smith's murder)]
Nov 4 M. Today was the Presidential election and the brethren all concluded to vote for Polk and Dallas for President and Vice President of the United States however, it was with peculiar feelings that I went to the polls. I thought of the man whom we had elected as the man of our choice for president of the United States: our Beloved Prophet Joseph Smith whose voice seemed yet to sound in the air, teaching this nation the way they might be saved and the means to pursue to avoid a disunion and overthrow of our Government. ...
[Diaries of Hosea Stout]
Nov 4 M. Today was the Presidential election and the brethren all concluded to vote for Polk and Dallas for President and Vice President of the United States however, it was with peculiar feelings that I went to the polls. I thought of the man whom we had elected as the man of our choice for president of the United States: our Beloved Prophet Joseph Smith whose voice seemed yet to sound in the air, teaching this nation the way they might be saved and the means to pursue to avoid a disunion and overthrow of our Government. ...
[Diaries of Hosea Stout]
115 years ago today - Nov 3, 1909; Wednesday
A letter was read from President Thomas E. McKay of the Swiss and German Mission, in which he speaks of the persecution and banishment of six elders from Berlin [Germany]. ...
Letters were read from Elders C. Fred Wilcox and Joseph Kuntz, missionaries in Switzerland, addressed to Elder James E. Talmage, in which reference is made to a probable opportunity of introducing the gospel into Russia. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
Letters were read from Elders C. Fred Wilcox and Joseph Kuntz, missionaries in Switzerland, addressed to Elder James E. Talmage, in which reference is made to a probable opportunity of introducing the gospel into Russia. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
115 years ago today - Nov 3, 1909
[Apostle George Albert Smith]
- left SLC for St. George to rest, and "I remained in bed until about the 1st of May when I had my clothes brought to me and dressed for the first time in over five months. ...I had two or three bad sinking spells and was so weak at times that the exertion of arranging my bed clothes would cause a nervous chill." -returned to SLC ca May 8th, 1910
[Journals of George Albert Smith]
- left SLC for St. George to rest, and "I remained in bed until about the 1st of May when I had my clothes brought to me and dressed for the first time in over five months. ...I had two or three bad sinking spells and was so weak at times that the exertion of arranging my bed clothes would cause a nervous chill." -returned to SLC ca May 8th, 1910
[Journals of George Albert Smith]
125 years ago today - Nov 3, 1899; Friday
President Lorenzo Snow was at the office, where he met a Mr. Smith, a correspondent of the Cincinnati Times ... President Snow told the gentleman that the Church had nothing whatever to do with the election of [B. H.] Roberts; and he also told him that the Church had ceased to solemnize plural marriages, that none had been performed by the Church, or with its sanction, since he became its President, and would not be.
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
140 years ago today - Nov 3, 1884 (Monday)
In the Third District Court (Judge Zane), Rudger Clawson was sentenced to four years' imprisonment and $800 fine for polygamy and unlawful cohabitation. The case was appealed, but bail was refused and Clawson taken to the Penitentiary. [Clawson would later be called to the Quorum of Twelve and later the First Presidency.]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
85 years ago today - Nov 2, 1939
[President Heber J. Grant]
Any number of bankers, in fact all of them that I have met, spoke in the highest term of the talk I gave at Wilshire Ward against the ... 'Ham and Eggs' Amendment to the Constitution of California, which in my judgment is one of the most damnable things ever conceived in the brain of man. It sets up a dictator and puts men in office whose reputation is anything but savory and perpetuates them in office. It also establishes a bank with men to run it who are not bankers and other things that I do not care to bother to refer to. Presonally (sic), I almost feel that any Latter-day Saint who would vote for such a measure is not fit to be a member of the Church. It is contrary to all the teachings of the Church. I decided to send a copy of my talk in the Wilshire Ward to every Bishop in the State of California and to all of the Branch Presidents in the Mission, and also a letter to every Stake President in California. I signed one day in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty letters. I
had three people at the mission headquarters writing letters, enclosing them in envelopes and handing the letters to me to sign ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
Any number of bankers, in fact all of them that I have met, spoke in the highest term of the talk I gave at Wilshire Ward against the ... 'Ham and Eggs' Amendment to the Constitution of California, which in my judgment is one of the most damnable things ever conceived in the brain of man. It sets up a dictator and puts men in office whose reputation is anything but savory and perpetuates them in office. It also establishes a bank with men to run it who are not bankers and other things that I do not care to bother to refer to. Presonally (sic), I almost feel that any Latter-day Saint who would vote for such a measure is not fit to be a member of the Church. It is contrary to all the teachings of the Church. I decided to send a copy of my talk in the Wilshire Ward to every Bishop in the State of California and to all of the Branch Presidents in the Mission, and also a letter to every Stake President in California. I signed one day in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty letters. I
had three people at the mission headquarters writing letters, enclosing them in envelopes and handing the letters to me to sign ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
125 years ago today - Nov 2, 1899; Thursday
President Snow inquired why prayer circles had ceased with the Council. No reason was assigned for their discontinuance, except that it had become inconvenient for President [Wilford] Woodruff to clothe, and the custom had gradually been laid aside. President Snow thought that the Council should resume its prayer circle, and it was the feeling of all present that this should be done. ...
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
85 years ago today - Nov 2, 1939
[President Heber J. Grant]
Any number of bankers, in fact all of them that I have met, spoke in the highest term of the talk I gave at Wilshire Ward against the ... 'Ham and Eggs' Amendment to the Constitution of California, which in my judgment is one of the most damnable things ever conceived in the brain of man. It sets up a dictator and puts men in office whose reputation is anything but savory and perpetuates them in office. It also establishes a bank with men to run it who are not bankers and other things that I do not care to bother to refer to. Presonally (sic), I almost feel that any Latter-day Saint who would vote for such a measure is not fit to be a member of the Church. It is contrary to all the teachings of the Church. I decided to send a copy of my talk in the Wilshire Ward to every Bishop in the State of California and to all of the Branch Presidents in the Mission, and also a letter to every Stake President in California. I signed one day in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty letters. I
had three people at the mission headquarters writing letters, enclosing them in envelopes and handing the letters to me to sign ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
Any number of bankers, in fact all of them that I have met, spoke in the highest term of the talk I gave at Wilshire Ward against the ... 'Ham and Eggs' Amendment to the Constitution of California, which in my judgment is one of the most damnable things ever conceived in the brain of man. It sets up a dictator and puts men in office whose reputation is anything but savory and perpetuates them in office. It also establishes a bank with men to run it who are not bankers and other things that I do not care to bother to refer to. Presonally (sic), I almost feel that any Latter-day Saint who would vote for such a measure is not fit to be a member of the Church. It is contrary to all the teachings of the Church. I decided to send a copy of my talk in the Wilshire Ward to every Bishop in the State of California and to all of the Branch Presidents in the Mission, and also a letter to every Stake President in California. I signed one day in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty letters. I
had three people at the mission headquarters writing letters, enclosing them in envelopes and handing the letters to me to sign ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
125 years ago today - Nov 2, 1899; Thursday
President Snow inquired why prayer circles had ceased with the Council. No reason was assigned for their discontinuance, except that it had become inconvenient for President [Wilford] Woodruff to clothe, and the custom had gradually been laid aside. President Snow thought that the Council should resume its prayer circle, and it was the feeling of all present that this should be done. ...
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
135 years ago today - Nov 2, 1889 (Saturday)
Truman O. Angell [Temple Architect] was arrested in Salt Lake City, for u.c. [Unlawful Cohabitation, I.E. living with a polygamous wife]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
20 years ago today - Nov 2, 2004
[Same-sex Marriage]
Utah Voters approve Amendment 3 to the Utah Constitution. The amendment states that marriage consists of only the legal union between a man and a woman.
[Herald Extra, "LDS Church: No gay marriages in meetinghouses", http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lds-church-no-gay-marriages-in-meetinghouses/article_9115817b-5e81-5e2f-b1e7-692843870e5d.html]
Utah Voters approve Amendment 3 to the Utah Constitution. The amendment states that marriage consists of only the legal union between a man and a woman.
[Herald Extra, "LDS Church: No gay marriages in meetinghouses", http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lds-church-no-gay-marriages-in-meetinghouses/article_9115817b-5e81-5e2f-b1e7-692843870e5d.html]
85 years ago today - Nov 2, 1939
[President Heber J. Grant]
Any number of bankers, in fact all of them that I have met, spoke in the highest term of the talk I gave at Wilshire Ward against the ... 'Ham and Eggs' Amendment to the Constitution of California, which in my judgment is one of the most damnable things ever conceived in the brain of man. It sets up a dictator and puts men in office whose reputation is anything but savory and perpetuates them in office. It also establishes a bank with men to run it who are not bankers and other things that I do not care to bother to refer to. Presonally (sic), I almost feel that any Latter-day Saint who would vote for such a measure is not fit to be a member of the Church. It is contrary to all the teachings of the Church. I decided to send a copy of my talk in the Wilshire Ward to every Bishop in the State of California and to all of the Branch Presidents in the Mission, and also a letter to every Stake President in California. I signed one day in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty letters. I
had three people at the mission headquarters writing letters, enclosing them in envelopes and handing the letters to me to sign ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
Any number of bankers, in fact all of them that I have met, spoke in the highest term of the talk I gave at Wilshire Ward against the ... 'Ham and Eggs' Amendment to the Constitution of California, which in my judgment is one of the most damnable things ever conceived in the brain of man. It sets up a dictator and puts men in office whose reputation is anything but savory and perpetuates them in office. It also establishes a bank with men to run it who are not bankers and other things that I do not care to bother to refer to. Presonally (sic), I almost feel that any Latter-day Saint who would vote for such a measure is not fit to be a member of the Church. It is contrary to all the teachings of the Church. I decided to send a copy of my talk in the Wilshire Ward to every Bishop in the State of California and to all of the Branch Presidents in the Mission, and also a letter to every Stake President in California. I signed one day in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty letters. I
had three people at the mission headquarters writing letters, enclosing them in envelopes and handing the letters to me to sign ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
125 years ago today - Nov 2, 1899; Thursday
President Snow inquired why prayer circles had ceased with the Council. No reason was assigned for their discontinuance, except that it had become inconvenient for President [Wilford] Woodruff to clothe, and the custom had gradually been laid aside. President Snow thought that the Council should resume its prayer circle, and it was the feeling of all present that this should be done. ...
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
135 years ago today - Nov 2, 1889 (Saturday)
Truman O. Angell [Temple Architect] was arrested in Salt Lake City, for u.c. [Unlawful Cohabitation, I.E. living with a polygamous wife]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
20 years ago today - Nov 2, 2004
[Same-sex Marriage]
Utah Voters approve Amendment 3 to the Utah Constitution. The amendment states that marriage consists of only the legal union between a man and a woman.
[Herald Extra, "LDS Church: No gay marriages in meetinghouses", http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lds-church-no-gay-marriages-in-meetinghouses/article_9115817b-5e81-5e2f-b1e7-692843870e5d.html]
Utah Voters approve Amendment 3 to the Utah Constitution. The amendment states that marriage consists of only the legal union between a man and a woman.
[Herald Extra, "LDS Church: No gay marriages in meetinghouses", http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lds-church-no-gay-marriages-in-meetinghouses/article_9115817b-5e81-5e2f-b1e7-692843870e5d.html]
85 years ago today - Nov 2, 1939
[President Heber J. Grant]
Any number of bankers, in fact all of them that I have met, spoke in the highest term of the talk I gave at Wilshire Ward against the ... 'Ham and Eggs' Amendment to the Constitution of California, which in my judgment is one of the most damnable things ever conceived in the brain of man. It sets up a dictator and puts men in office whose reputation is anything but savory and perpetuates them in office. It also establishes a bank with men to run it who are not bankers and other things that I do not care to bother to refer to. Presonally (sic), I almost feel that any Latter-day Saint who would vote for such a measure is not fit to be a member of the Church. It is contrary to all the teachings of the Church. I decided to send a copy of my talk in the Wilshire Ward to every Bishop in the State of California and to all of the Branch Presidents in the Mission, and also a letter to every Stake President in California. I signed one day in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty letters. I
had three people at the mission headquarters writing letters, enclosing them in envelopes and handing the letters to me to sign ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
Any number of bankers, in fact all of them that I have met, spoke in the highest term of the talk I gave at Wilshire Ward against the ... 'Ham and Eggs' Amendment to the Constitution of California, which in my judgment is one of the most damnable things ever conceived in the brain of man. It sets up a dictator and puts men in office whose reputation is anything but savory and perpetuates them in office. It also establishes a bank with men to run it who are not bankers and other things that I do not care to bother to refer to. Presonally (sic), I almost feel that any Latter-day Saint who would vote for such a measure is not fit to be a member of the Church. It is contrary to all the teachings of the Church. I decided to send a copy of my talk in the Wilshire Ward to every Bishop in the State of California and to all of the Branch Presidents in the Mission, and also a letter to every Stake President in California. I signed one day in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty letters. I
had three people at the mission headquarters writing letters, enclosing them in envelopes and handing the letters to me to sign ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
125 years ago today - Nov 2, 1899; Thursday
President Snow inquired why prayer circles had ceased with the Council. No reason was assigned for their discontinuance, except that it had become inconvenient for President [Wilford] Woodruff to clothe, and the custom had gradually been laid aside. President Snow thought that the Council should resume its prayer circle, and it was the feeling of all present that this should be done. ...
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
135 years ago today - Nov 2, 1889 (Saturday)
Truman O. Angell [Temple Architect] was arrested in Salt Lake City, for u.c. [Unlawful Cohabitation, I.E. living with a polygamous wife]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
20 years ago today - Nov 2, 2004
[Same-sex Marriage]
Utah Voters approve Amendment 3 to the Utah Constitution. The amendment states that marriage consists of only the legal union between a man and a woman.
[Herald Extra, "LDS Church: No gay marriages in meetinghouses", http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lds-church-no-gay-marriages-in-meetinghouses/article_9115817b-5e81-5e2f-b1e7-692843870e5d.html]
Utah Voters approve Amendment 3 to the Utah Constitution. The amendment states that marriage consists of only the legal union between a man and a woman.
[Herald Extra, "LDS Church: No gay marriages in meetinghouses", http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lds-church-no-gay-marriages-in-meetinghouses/article_9115817b-5e81-5e2f-b1e7-692843870e5d.html]
85 years ago today - Nov 2, 1939
[President Heber J. Grant]
Any number of bankers, in fact all of them that I have met, spoke in the highest term of the talk I gave at Wilshire Ward against the ... 'Ham and Eggs' Amendment to the Constitution of California, which in my judgment is one of the most damnable things ever conceived in the brain of man. It sets up a dictator and puts men in office whose reputation is anything but savory and perpetuates them in office. It also establishes a bank with men to run it who are not bankers and other things that I do not care to bother to refer to. Presonally (sic), I almost feel that any Latter-day Saint who would vote for such a measure is not fit to be a member of the Church. It is contrary to all the teachings of the Church. I decided to send a copy of my talk in the Wilshire Ward to every Bishop in the State of California and to all of the Branch Presidents in the Mission, and also a letter to every Stake President in California. I signed one day in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty letters. I
had three people at the mission headquarters writing letters, enclosing them in envelopes and handing the letters to me to sign ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
Any number of bankers, in fact all of them that I have met, spoke in the highest term of the talk I gave at Wilshire Ward against the ... 'Ham and Eggs' Amendment to the Constitution of California, which in my judgment is one of the most damnable things ever conceived in the brain of man. It sets up a dictator and puts men in office whose reputation is anything but savory and perpetuates them in office. It also establishes a bank with men to run it who are not bankers and other things that I do not care to bother to refer to. Presonally (sic), I almost feel that any Latter-day Saint who would vote for such a measure is not fit to be a member of the Church. It is contrary to all the teachings of the Church. I decided to send a copy of my talk in the Wilshire Ward to every Bishop in the State of California and to all of the Branch Presidents in the Mission, and also a letter to every Stake President in California. I signed one day in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty letters. I
had three people at the mission headquarters writing letters, enclosing them in envelopes and handing the letters to me to sign ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
125 years ago today - Nov 2, 1899; Thursday
President Snow inquired why prayer circles had ceased with the Council. No reason was assigned for their discontinuance, except that it had become inconvenient for President [Wilford] Woodruff to clothe, and the custom had gradually been laid aside. President Snow thought that the Council should resume its prayer circle, and it was the feeling of all present that this should be done. ...
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
135 years ago today - Nov 2, 1889 (Saturday)
Truman O. Angell [Temple Architect] was arrested in Salt Lake City, for u.c. [Unlawful Cohabitation, I.E. living with a polygamous wife]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
20 years ago today - Nov 2, 2004
[Same-sex Marriage]
Utah Voters approve Amendment 3 to the Utah Constitution. The amendment states that marriage consists of only the legal union between a man and a woman.
[Herald Extra, "LDS Church: No gay marriages in meetinghouses", http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lds-church-no-gay-marriages-in-meetinghouses/article_9115817b-5e81-5e2f-b1e7-692843870e5d.html]
Utah Voters approve Amendment 3 to the Utah Constitution. The amendment states that marriage consists of only the legal union between a man and a woman.
[Herald Extra, "LDS Church: No gay marriages in meetinghouses", http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lds-church-no-gay-marriages-in-meetinghouses/article_9115817b-5e81-5e2f-b1e7-692843870e5d.html]
85 years ago today - Nov 2, 1939
[President Heber J. Grant]
Any number of bankers, in fact all of them that I have met, spoke in the highest term of the talk I gave at Wilshire Ward against the ... 'Ham and Eggs' Amendment to the Constitution of California, which in my judgment is one of the most damnable things ever conceived in the brain of man. It sets up a dictator and puts men in office whose reputation is anything but savory and perpetuates them in office. It also establishes a bank with men to run it who are not bankers and other things that I do not care to bother to refer to. Presonally (sic), I almost feel that any Latter-day Saint who would vote for such a measure is not fit to be a member of the Church. It is contrary to all the teachings of the Church. I decided to send a copy of my talk in the Wilshire Ward to every Bishop in the State of California and to all of the Branch Presidents in the Mission, and also a letter to every Stake President in California. I signed one day in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty letters. I
had three people at the mission headquarters writing letters, enclosing them in envelopes and handing the letters to me to sign ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
Any number of bankers, in fact all of them that I have met, spoke in the highest term of the talk I gave at Wilshire Ward against the ... 'Ham and Eggs' Amendment to the Constitution of California, which in my judgment is one of the most damnable things ever conceived in the brain of man. It sets up a dictator and puts men in office whose reputation is anything but savory and perpetuates them in office. It also establishes a bank with men to run it who are not bankers and other things that I do not care to bother to refer to. Presonally (sic), I almost feel that any Latter-day Saint who would vote for such a measure is not fit to be a member of the Church. It is contrary to all the teachings of the Church. I decided to send a copy of my talk in the Wilshire Ward to every Bishop in the State of California and to all of the Branch Presidents in the Mission, and also a letter to every Stake President in California. I signed one day in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty letters. I
had three people at the mission headquarters writing letters, enclosing them in envelopes and handing the letters to me to sign ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
125 years ago today - Nov 2, 1899; Thursday
President Snow inquired why prayer circles had ceased with the Council. No reason was assigned for their discontinuance, except that it had become inconvenient for President [Wilford] Woodruff to clothe, and the custom had gradually been laid aside. President Snow thought that the Council should resume its prayer circle, and it was the feeling of all present that this should be done. ...
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
135 years ago today - Nov 2, 1889 (Saturday)
Truman O. Angell [Temple Architect] was arrested in Salt Lake City, for u.c. [Unlawful Cohabitation, I.E. living with a polygamous wife]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
[Jenson, Andrew, Church Chronology]
20 years ago today - Nov 2, 2004
[Same-sex Marriage]
Utah Voters approve Amendment 3 to the Utah Constitution. The amendment states that marriage consists of only the legal union between a man and a woman.
[Herald Extra, "LDS Church: No gay marriages in meetinghouses", http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lds-church-no-gay-marriages-in-meetinghouses/article_9115817b-5e81-5e2f-b1e7-692843870e5d.html]
Utah Voters approve Amendment 3 to the Utah Constitution. The amendment states that marriage consists of only the legal union between a man and a woman.
[Herald Extra, "LDS Church: No gay marriages in meetinghouses", http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lds-church-no-gay-marriages-in-meetinghouses/article_9115817b-5e81-5e2f-b1e7-692843870e5d.html]
85 years ago today - Nov 2, 1939
[President Heber J. Grant]
Any number of bankers, in fact all of them that I have met, spoke in the highest term of the talk I gave at Wilshire Ward against the ... 'Ham and Eggs' Amendment to the Constitution of California, which in my judgment is one of the most damnable things ever conceived in the brain of man. It sets up a dictator and puts men in office whose reputation is anything but savory and perpetuates them in office. It also establishes a bank with men to run it who are not bankers and other things that I do not care to bother to refer to. Presonally (sic), I almost feel that any Latter-day Saint who would vote for such a measure is not fit to be a member of the Church. It is contrary to all the teachings of the Church. I decided to send a copy of my talk in the Wilshire Ward to every Bishop in the State of California and to all of the Branch Presidents in the Mission, and also a letter to every Stake President in California. I signed one day in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty letters. I
had three people at the mission headquarters writing letters, enclosing them in envelopes and handing the letters to me to sign ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
Any number of bankers, in fact all of them that I have met, spoke in the highest term of the talk I gave at Wilshire Ward against the ... 'Ham and Eggs' Amendment to the Constitution of California, which in my judgment is one of the most damnable things ever conceived in the brain of man. It sets up a dictator and puts men in office whose reputation is anything but savory and perpetuates them in office. It also establishes a bank with men to run it who are not bankers and other things that I do not care to bother to refer to. Presonally (sic), I almost feel that any Latter-day Saint who would vote for such a measure is not fit to be a member of the Church. It is contrary to all the teachings of the Church. I decided to send a copy of my talk in the Wilshire Ward to every Bishop in the State of California and to all of the Branch Presidents in the Mission, and also a letter to every Stake President in California. I signed one day in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty letters. I
had three people at the mission headquarters writing letters, enclosing them in envelopes and handing the letters to me to sign ...
[Diary of Heber J. Grant, http://amzn.to/newmormonstudies]
125 years ago today - Nov 2, 1899; Thursday
President Snow inquired why prayer circles had ceased with the Council. No reason was assigned for their discontinuance, except that it had become inconvenient for President [Wilford] Woodruff to clothe, and the custom had gradually been laid aside. President Snow thought that the Council should resume its prayer circle, and it was the feeling of all present that this should be done. ...
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth. ...
[First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes]
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